Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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The same could be said of your opine of them as well Bruin.

We can certainly debate their ability to win here. I personally don't like 2 of them nearly as much as one but the Fact they meet exactly what hart described isn't debatable
 
I'll probably say this until the new head coach is officially announced: I'm leaving the window open.

My window is full-blown open, with my finger jammed on the "up" button, moreso now than ever.

I'd be less likely to think Gruden was actually happening if the last two day's hadn't happened. If you get a chance, read my post in this forum. It's long, but if you have faith that he's still a possibility, you may like and agree with some of the theories I throw out there (and disclaimer, they're not all my own - others feel this way too.)
 
Don't know if you guys saw baby's latest post in the Cliff's, but he actually posted several other comments late last night, all of which add up to he's still all in on JG. Even said he thought between Dec. 11-16 for an announcement. I'm not about to make a prediction one way or the other after the circus that has taken place, but I will say two things.

One, I know for an absolute fact baby is no troll and has connections. Not only has he brought accurate info for years over there, I know his name and his background, etc. as we have some mutual friends that went to HS with him. He certainly could be wrong, but he is as straight up a guy as any of the OG's over here or anyone I know anywhere, and absolutely would not mislead anyone on purpose.

And two, if Hart doesn't announce someone else by the end of this coming week, I'm going back to Grucon 1. The ONLY way that happens IMO is if it's Gruden and we're dealing with his timeline, as has been stated many times before. Regardless of what happens, this has been the craziest thing I've ever seen associated with UT or coming out of the Knoxville "media," such as it is.

"Grucon 1" Heh! Good post - I'll second that ab BabyVol, although in the interest of full disclosure, the other 2 kingpins on tos, LWS & Deerpark, don't (or at least haven't) agreed w baby. This speculation is still more fun than our football season was! No matter who ends up as our coach, I hope someone writes a book about all the behind-the-scenes stuff! I'd be the first to buy it, unless it's Clay Travis, then I'd just have to read the Cliff Notes!
 
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I will say this again.

FISHER IS NOT COMING TO TENNESSEE! His son is extremely ill and has a fatal blood disorder. Plus his son is all seminole.

LETS LOOK AT THIS FROM A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION standpoint and put the pieces togeather... anyone care to start?
 
One question and I will leave you alone Boro...

have you heard from your sources after the lamonte announcement and are they still saying all is good?

They are saying they have heard nothing from anybody that carries the juice to change their mind. That is what is crazy and does not add up. I actually put a little stock in Macgruders theory. It happened once before back in October when everyone got too close.....it just wasn't as severe that time.
 
So, since we are Gruden nuts, let's play along the lines that after the super fast kill of UT actually having a serious offer in Grud's hands it was a huge smoke bomb to slow down everything for the Dec 11+ or so date. Then Hart will be working like a bee to come up empty for a couple more weeks and then lo and behold we've fixed the Gruden offer? Sounds like a story I can believe after all the other info. I'm still in the Gruden dream, so let me live it till Hart F@#!s it up.

I think that's certainly plausible. Anyone with a brain can see that there has been a lot of misdirection during this whole affair. It's a small glimmer of hope that I hold onto, that won't be gone until someone else is announced.
 
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They are saying they have heard nothing from anybody that carries the juice to change their mind. That is what is crazy and does not add up. I actually put a little stock in Macgruders theory. It happened once before back in October when everyone got too close.....it just wasn't as severe that time.



The thing is, If all this is a conspiracy set up by the AD/top tier boosters to shut down the frenzy/leaks why would Gruden need the secrecy? I am assuming ESPN?
 
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We can certainly debate their ability to win here. I personally don't like 2 of them nearly as much as one but the Fact they meet exactly what hart described isn't debatable

What you need is somebody who will come here, have success and "become" a part of UT--be like Fulmer was in the late 90s. Like Pat Summitt and the Lady Vols.

If it is an outsider, then you look at Neyland as an example. He was not from Tennessee, but came here and became the father of the program.

You can debate whether any coach can have success, but the deciding factor has to be that they see this as a destination job (not like Kiffin). That is why Gruden was so attractive. He has so many ties to the program, the school and East Tennessee, you could see him really buying in.
 
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Sorry posting again got at bottom of page

LETS LOOK AT THIS FROM A PROCESS OF ELIMINATION standpoint and put the pieces togeather... anyone care to start
 
Petrino is too high risk. Can't **** this up

Every hire we make is high risk at this point. Load the contract with moral clauses, give him a budget that allows for stellar recruiters and roll the dice. I want to win again and I don't care if Petrino rolls through the T on a Harley with a different blonde coed every week at this point. No more up and comers.
 
Okay, I don't think anybody has been eliminated at this point.

U got me on that one, lol. But i highly doubt fisher. There was a special on espn inside fsu not to long ago. Like i said his son has a rare blood disorder and is die hard seminole fan. From what it looked like he was very comfortable there.
 
They are saying they have heard nothing from anybody that carries the juice to change their mind. That is what is crazy and does not add up. I actually put a little stock in Macgruders theory. It happened once before back in October when everyone got too close.....it just wasn't as severe that time.

'Boro, I just want to thank you for continuing to give us all hope that this might work out. You and the other OGs have been very consistent in your info. No matter how this works out, I am just very thankful to you for sticking your necks out and providing us hope. I still hold out hope this will work out.:thumbsup:
 
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