Official Mitchell Report Thread

#52
#52
If yall are right about Clemens I will be truly disappointed. I have known it was a possibility, however I'm not going to like it becoming a reality. He's one of us, down here in Texas. If he's guilty, I'll no longer consider him a former Astro great that helped us to the series. He'll be a f-n, cheatin' sip that played for the bo -sux imo.
 
#53
#53
TXVOL07 said:
If yall are right about Clemens I will be truly disappointed. I have known it was a possibility, however I'm not going to like it becoming a reality. He's one of us, down here in Texas. If he's guilty, I'll no longer consider him a former Astro great that helped us to the series. He'll be a f-n, cheatin' sip that played for the bo -sux imo.
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Clemens has been as obvious as Bonds for years now. He was well into the decline phase of a normal career arc (although he was still pretty freaking good, since he was so great at his peak), when suddenly his head ballooned and he went back to winning Cy Youngs in his late 30s and 40s. That doesn't happen without help.

Pettitte is an interesting name, though. Supposedly he's on the list with Clemens. They shared a trainer for awhile.
 
#54
#54
As close as Andy and Roger were, I would be suprised if one was without the other as well.
 
#56
#56
I think the fallout and the spin the accused try and put on this is going to be far more interesting than the actual list.
 
#57
#57
People better make sure they're consistent on their stances with these players in comparison to Bonds. I want all their records nuked, not just Bonds.
 
#60
#60
Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Sc hoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.
 
#64
#64
Look how many MVPs or close MVPs on the list

Belle
Sosa
McGwire
Pujols (nooooo!)
Caminiti
Canseco
Gonzalez
Garciaparra
Vaughn
Bagwell
Bonds
Sheffield
Tejada
Rodriguez
Palmiero
 
#66
#66
VolinArizona said:
Pujols (nooooo!)
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Oh, come on! The guy is cut from the same cloth as McGwire, and has had those goofy anger spats! He looks like a younger version of Barry Bonds in the way he's built. If his name is actually on this list, would anyone really really really be surprised?
 
#68
#68
With MLB having no testing prior to 2 years ago and there being so much money at stake, is it any wonder that the list is so long? Bud Selig should resign tomorrow.
 
#70
#70
It makes me appreciate him more. Putting up those numbers naturally (still, he could juice) is amazing.
 
#71
#71
GAVol said:
Bud Selig should resign tomorrow.
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I wonder if the money and popularity produced by the steroid era will be undone by something like this list? If fan support continues to stay high, Bud Selig might be one of the best marketing commissioners ever. I don't care for him, but allowing steroids to run amok after the strike years built for some entertaining baseball and helped gain back fan interest. I'm not saying it's right, but you cannot deny his job is to market and make the MLB money.
 
#72
#72
clemons being a juicer is about as shocking as finding out that rossie o'donnel was gay. let's face it they all were (are) juicing. particurally 42 year old guys throwing 90 mph.
 
#73
#73
So Mitchell's biggest source was a former Mets clubhouse guy, yet there are no Mets on the list? I call shenanigans.
 
#75
#75
Seeing Bagwell proves my reasoning for always, I mean ALWAYS, idolizing Biggio. Craig = Mickey for my generation, with AROD = Babe Ruth.
 
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