Official VN "Eat Crow" Thread

[justingroves]

Special teams, the OL and the running game showed no improvement last year. That is part of what dings Dooley's cred.

They didn't just not improve, they took a gigantic step backwards.

 

[LadyinOrange]

1 or 2 losses only? Seriously?

8 wins is hardly a rebirth of dominance

I'll take it anyway.

 

[UT's#1Fan]

Exactly, but until then, some choose to badmouth the coach and complain about everything, some other choose to be positive about the future, neither one will know if they are right until the season gets here.

realists...

homers...



carry on.

 

[hndog609]

They didn't just not improve, they took a gigantic step backwards.

I think it's worth noting that the OL/RB issues have been specifically addressed. How successfully? We'll just have to see how that plays out.

 

[UT's#1Fan]

My current list of crow eating vol fans and/or trolls. 35 and growing! :moon2:
AstonRoyal
Bassmanbruno
brianlsanders
craighead
Culbreath4Heisman
DarthVisor
fade route
g8terh8ter_eric
GLDunlap
grimvol
JayVols
justingroves
k-town_king
Lexvol
LifeisO&W
Midfielder10
Mr.Fister
orangepridenation
TennTradition
The Ron Mexico
thefrogjumper
Thrasher865
TNGlen
UT IE 95
UT's#1Fan
utvol372
VOL COP
Vol423
VolBeef88
volberry
VOLnMiami
vols-1
VolsSportsFan
vol_in_il
Yankee_Vol

My stance on Dooley is very clear... just read my signature. I'm not scared of my opinion being public. Dooley has this year to right the ship... he fails to do so, see ya later. Pretty sure this is the feeling of the majority of Vol fans worldwide. Not really a controversial stance...

 

[UT's#1Fan]

I'll go on record right now and if anyone wants to make a screen shot of this then go ahead, If UT can't beat UF with the team they have this season, they should run Dooley and his staff out of town...Those QB's from UF are terrible but why do I get this feeling that in our traditional form We end up making them look like heisman contenders?

I've said it several times too, we better beat Florida this year. If we don't I wouldn't mind a presser afterwards announcing his firing. That is a MUST win for Dooley and he needs to know that. Losing is not an option.

 

[justingroves]

I think it's worth noting that the OL/RB issues have been specifically addressed. How successfully? We'll just have to see how that plays out.

You roll out 4 of the same starters on the OL and a back that's had knee troubles and another back that doesn't like contact and can't hold on to the ball.

You still have the same guy calling the plays as well.

 

[UT's#1Fan]

What's ironic is that you DDNMWB claim that those of us who are critical of DD "bad mouth" the team. And yet you nor any of your ilk can find a single post where we have. And here's you in this post I'm quoting blaming the players in order to defend DD. That is a damn sight more a bad mouthing the team than anything I've EVER done. Anytime anyone brings up the KY game y'all throw the players under the bus to defend Dooley. But hey, that's only natural seeing how DD does the same thing. Throw the players under the bus and not accept responsibility is the M O of Orange pants.
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Honestly, they're just like liberals. They can bash your opinion but you can't say a word about theirs.

I said this for some time. I’ve got no problem with Doolaiders wanting to ride and die with Dooley, go ahead, but I’m for the best interests of the brand that is UT Football and those players out there. If I feel they're being led by the wrong contracted captain, then by God I’m going to say something about it.

Difference being, I’m bashed for my opinion, yet I’ve never initiated a verbal battle at Gettysburg with someone because they blindly support the guy regardless of the results under his tenure.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Honestly, they're just like liberals. They can bash your opinion but you can't say a word about theirs.

I said this for some time. I’ve got no problem with Doolaiders wanting to ride and die with Dooley, go ahead, but I’m for the best interests of the brand that is UT Football and those players out there. If I feel they're being led by the wrong contracted captain, then by God I’m going to say something about it.

Difference being, I’m bashed for my opinion, yet I’ve never initiated a verbal battle at Gettysburg with someone because they blindly support the guy regardless of the results under his tenure.

i have no problem with someone stating their opinion on DD....especially when some logic is used to explain it....Volbeef tries to use logic....and does so to some degree, but fails to see just how pitiful the Vol program had become prior to his arrival...and he's a douche...but I can see where he's coming from with regard to his questioning of DD being the right hire at the time. I'm still somewhat in the middle on DD, but I can see that the program is in MUCH better shape than it was when he arrived

 

[Carl Pickens]

Honestly, they're just like liberals. They can bash your opinion but you can't say a word about theirs.

I said this for some time. I’ve got no problem with Doolaiders wanting to ride and die with Dooley, go ahead, but I’m for the best interests of the brand that is UT Football and those players out there. If I feel they're being led by the wrong contracted captain, then by God I’m going to say something about it.

Difference being, I’m bashed for my opinion, yet I’ve never initiated a verbal battle at Gettysburg with someone because they blindly support the guy regardless of the results under his tenure.

Not even close my man.....liberals are without a doubt much worse and useless

 

[justingroves]

i have no problem with someone stating their opinion on DD....especially when some logic is used to explain it....Volbeef tries to use logic....and does so to some degree, but fails to see just how pitiful the Vol program had become prior to his arrival...and he's a douche...but I can see where he's coming from with regard to his questioning of DD being the right hire at the time. I'm still somewhat in the middle on DD, but I can see that the program is in MUCH better shape than it was when he arrived

A coach with a pulse makes the roster better than it was to start the 2010 season imo. Dooley shouldn't get praised for doing a decent job when he's making $2 million to do it.

I don't think he's built a roster capable of winning the SEC or is anywhere close to building a roster capable of winning the SEC. He's had some serious brainfarts in regards to in game coaching and his team quit on him last year. That's the makings of an, at best, mediocre coach. Tennessee deserves better.

 

[Volst53]

OP should stick to weather threads

 

[VolBeef88]

i have no problem with someone stating their opinion on DD....especially when some logic is used to explain it....Volbeef tries to use logic....and does so to some degree, but fails to see just how pitiful the Vol program had become prior to his arrival...and he's a douche...but I can see where he's coming from with regard to his questioning of DD being the right hire at the time. I'm still somewhat in the middle on DD, but I can see that the program is in MUCH better shape than it was when he arrived

I don't try to use logic, I use logic. You're unable to understand logic so like the others you blindly follow you throw insults and I respond in same.
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[Oskie Volum]

I will judge DD by how we do against the 4 teams I mentioned. 9 wins or more and I'll give him credit. 8 wins is the minimum. Like I said, 8 wins this year is equivalent to 6 last year.
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Beef the issue I have with ur mentality is that u r looking at it as UT going backwards based on where UT should be because of our history. Not going forward based on dooleys tenure. Yes we all can agree that 8 games should be wins, and we "sunshine pumpers" see it as a positive step in the right direction instead of a negative step. When fulmer started doing bad that was a step in the wrong direction.

Teams like msu and mizzou have enough talent to challenge us. Just like we have the talent to give Bama a tough game.

 

[hndog609]

You roll out 4 of the same starters on the OL and a back that's had knee troubles and another back that doesn't like contact and can't hold on to the ball.

You still have the same guy calling the plays as well.

They addressed coaching in those areas. That's really all I was pointing out. What dividends this will pay on the field can't be assessed yet. I really do expect Graham to help with Neal's issues.

 

[VolBeef88]

Beef the issue I have with ur mentality is that u r looking at it as UT going backwards based on where UT should be because of our history. Not going forward based on dooleys tenure. Yes we all can agree that 8 games should be wins, and we "sunshine pumpers" see it as a positive step in the right direction instead of a negative step. When fulmer started doing bad that was a step in the wrong direction.

Teams like msu and mizzou have enough talent to challenge us. Just like we have the talent to give Bama a tough game.

You couldn't be more wrong about what I think if you tried. I've not said anything close to that. The ONLY time I talked about our history is when we hire coaches. We have to much history, support, facilities and money to settle and I stand by that.
With DD the team regressed as the year went on in each of his years at UT. A team can show progress even in losses and his teams have NOT done that. I blame that on the coaches. You and your ilk blame the players and those who used to coach at UT.
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[nagle]

You couldn't be more wrong about what I think if you tried. I've not said anything close to that. The ONLY time I talked about our history is when we hire coaches. We have to much history, support, facilities and money to settle and I stand by that.
With DD the team regressed as the year went on in each of his years at UT. A team can show progress even in losses and his teams have NOT done that. I blame that on the coaches. You and your ilk blame the players and those who used to coach at UT.
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lol, never wrong, never, nope never you and #1fan must be really butt hurt. its ok we all know so you two keep posting we all love laughing at your words of...well ...so called knowledge....also i was asking do you see the football games UT plays as a game(fun)or is it a business? do you make money from the games?...just trying to see why you have this point of view...why are you so bent out of shape over Dooley.

 

[VolBeef88]

lol, never wrong, never, nope never you and #1fan must be really butt hurt. its ok we all know so you two keep posting we all love laughing at your words of...well ...so called knowledge....also i was asking do you see the football games UT plays as a game(fun)or is it a business? do you make money from the games?...just trying to see why you have this point of view...why are you so bent out of shape over Dooley.

The only financial interests I have in UT football is what I donate, season tickets and cost of attending all games both home and away.
Your inability to understand logic and discuss things is on you. You just read or maybe just replied to a post where I stated some of my thoughts on DD and you can't discuss it. You never discuss things you divert. I hope people like you don't agree with me because we're all judged by our company.
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[Oskie Volum]

You couldn't be more wrong about what I think if you tried. I've not said anything close to that. The ONLY time I talked about our history is when we hire coaches. We have to much history, support, facilities and money to settle and I stand by that.
With DD the team regressed as the year went on in each of his years at UT. A team can show progress even in losses and his teams have NOT done that. I blame that on the coaches. You and your ilk blame the players and those who used to coach at UT.
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U may not have come out and said it but ur comments are understood as such. I understand all we have to not settle, but again u r riding that instead of looking at it from the pt we r truly at. Until we actually start playing and proving otherwise we are a mediocre team, so teams like msu and mizzou can compete with us. Is what it is and IMO we r moving forward in the right direction. U act like just because we r UT we r just gonna win everything. U r like a kid that has been given everything, and doesn't understand all the hard work the parents go through to provide it all. Then once on their own they get a reality check, and can't handle it.

Also u act like u would do a better job than cdd, and know more than he does. That's what's frustrating to sooooo many. Cause I'm sure u don't know more than him or could do a better job. Don't give me this he gets paid, and makes a bunch of money to get the job done yadda yadda yadda. I'm sure u couldn't do anywhere near what he has done if ur given 3Xs the amount he does.

 

[Oskie Volum]

ONE MORE FOR DINNER
AstonRoyal
Bassmanbruno
brianlsanders
craighead
Culbreath4Heisman
DarthVisor
fade route
g8terh8ter_eric
GLDunlap
grimvol
JayVols
joshc
justingroves
k-town_king
Lexvol
LifeisO&W
Midfielder10
Mr.Fister
MyBloodRunnethOrange
orangepridenation
TennTradition
The Ron Mexico
thefrogjumper
Thrasher865
TNGlen
UT IE 95
UT's#1Fan
utvol372
VOL COP
Vol423
VolBeef88
volberry
VOLnMiami
vols-1
VolsSportsFan
vol_in_il
Yankee_Vol

* AS I SAID, IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS!! :horse:

Nice list. :good!: I don't know how some like TNGlen or joshc got on there cause they shouldn't be at all. Now I understand why u think Fade should on there, but IMHO he rides the line better than most and doesnt do the cdd is a loser bit. Which is the key pt for many on the above list. Fade critizes and gives proper due, just doesn't do it with a inferiority complex or while riding a rainbow. Just comes off as a prick cause of his delivery. So he should be taken off IMO tifwiw.

Let's add stars to the list like a recruiting list. Volbeef, jgroves, #1volfan are 5*. I would add the likes of King Websticle at around 2-3* and others that r on the "he only got the job because of his last name" crowd.

 

[VolBeef88]

U may not have come out and said it but ur comments are understood as such. I understand all we have to not settle, but again u r riding that instead of looking at it from the pt we r truly at. Until we actually start playing and proving otherwise we are a mediocre team, so teams like msu and mizzou can compete with us. Is what it is and IMO we r moving forward in the right direction. U act like just because we r UT we r just gonna win everything. U r like a kid that has been given everything, and doesn't understand all the hard work the parents go through to provide it all. Then once on their own they get a reality check, and can't handle it.

Also u act like u would do a better job than cdd, and know more than he does. That's what's frustrating to sooooo many. Cause I'm sure u don't know more than him or could do a better job. Don't give me this he gets paid, and makes a bunch of money to get the job done yadda yadda yadda. I'm sure u couldn't do anywhere near what he has done if ur given 3Xs the amount he does.

Your inability to understand what I post and you then turn it to fit what you think I mean is on you. I've posted very clearly why I'm critical of DD. I judge him by how HIS teams regressed. I know no other way to judge a coach other than his performance.
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[Lexvol]

Nice list. :good!: I don't know how some like TNGlen or joshc got on there cause they shouldn't be at all. Now I understand why u think Fade should on there, but IMHO he rides the line better than most and doesnt do the cdd is a loser bit. Which is the key pt for many on the above list. Fade critizes and gives proper due, just doesn't do it with a inferiority complex or while riding a rainbow. Just comes off as a prick cause of his delivery. So he should be taken off IMO tifwiw.

Let's add stars to the list like a recruiting list. Volbeef, jgroves, #1volfan are 5*. I would add the likes of King Websticle at around 2-3* and others that r on the "he only got the job because of his last name" crowd.

I thought that a coaches eval was much more important to the Dooley felchers. To them...stars are meaningless.

 

[The Ron Mexico]

If we win 10, Dooley will win coach of the year with ease

He should win every coaching award if he wins 10 games. This is not a 10 win team. If DD wins 10 I'll be his biggest fan.

 

[tvolsfan]

I'm surprised I haven't been added to the list. I assume I will be shortly.

 

[tvolsfan]

Because we under achieved last year we should get super excited about beating mediocre programs?
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It will be funny to see some people demanding we "eat crow" if Tennessee goes 8-4 with losses to the 4 opponents that actually matter.