Ohio State in More Trouble (merged)

So, if the NCAA has the cojones to make tOSU vacate their games from the 2010 season, does that mean UT will be the only remaining school to never lose 8 games in a season, or does the season just magically disappear?

That's all that really matters. :rolleyes:
 
pearl talked to players and recruits and asked them to lie. tressel simply ignored a couple of emails and then lied about knowing about them. both are firable offenses, but one is worse.

Oh and I'm sure at no point JT said to his players they need to keep their mouths shut??? Come on!!

I just read the emails and now I want to know what JT held over the kids heads to get them to come back? He admits to holding their rings hostage. Read the emails this goes back years.
 
Put it this way. Imagine both parties came clean from the start. Pearl probably gets very little, if anything, and the OSU players still get a 5 game suspension. That's my justification for thinking Tressel's scenario could very possibly be considered worse.

Yes, in that scenario UT makes off much better than tOSU, but only Pearl would have committed a violation not Tressel.
 
pearl talked to players and recruits and asked them to lie. tressel simply ignored a couple of emails and then lied about knowing about them. both are firable offenses, but one is worse.

Cal's defensive line coach had his players fake injuries. That is technically having your players lie. See we are not that different
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pearl talked to players and recruits and asked them to lie. tressel simply ignored a couple of emails and then lied about knowing about them. both are firable offenses, but one is worse.

There ya go churching up what tressel did again he must be so proud of you right now
 
pearl talked to players and recruits and asked them to lie. tressel simply ignored a couple of emails and then lied about knowing about them. both are firable offenses, but one is worse.

Seriously? put down the bong droski. tressel lied to the ncaa and the university AFTER trying to cover it up himself. His actions were much more egregious than pearl's by any measuring stick...not to mention playing ineligible players.
 
Put it this way. Imagine both parties came clean from the start. Pearl probably gets very little, if anything, and the OSU players still get a 5 game suspension. That's my justification for thinking Tressel's scenario could very possibly be considered worse.

tressel though wouldn't have had anything happen to him.
 
I'm sure Tressel's excuse for not benching the players as "undisclosed violation of team rules" was that it would have been suspicious and he was trying to protect the federal investigation into drug trafficking. ha!

this man should be rewarded!
 
tressel though wouldn't have had anything happen to him.
In that situation, I agree. But playing them makes it a huge deal that I think he's likely to be held responsible for. Can we agree that Tressel obviously lied to OSU and kept information from the NCAA/public when this whole thing came out in December? I'd say that matches Pearl lying about the barbecue. Both coaches made an attempt to hide something and lied about it.

After the lying, you have the other issues with the coach. Pearl hosted a barbecue, and Tressel played ineligible players for the entire season. I certainly see how that could be worse.
 
On the radio today, all I've heard is that Tressel signed forms and papers that said he was compliant with the NCAA and, basically, intentionally implied to them that he did not know about his players' violations.

Sounds like a nice big heaping lie to me.
 
Failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance and failure to monitor are both tied to his coverup. What other major violations were there? The impermissible phone calls and the cookout were not major violations.

The NCAA listed them as such.

Count I: Major violation. The impermissible phone calls are grouped into one major violation of a pattern of continuous violation of rules 13.1. Pearl is personally named as committing the violation along with others.

Count II: Another major violation, factual detail edited out and redacted. Again, Pearl is directly cited as committing the major violation.

Count III: Another major violation, direct contact with a recruit off-campus for longer than permitted. (Presumably, the timing of the contact and failure to disclose to the NCAA the impermissible contact elevated it to major.)

Count IV: Another major violation, which includes the illicit recruitment, identified as an impermissible benefit to a recruit, then covered up with lies, dishonesty and unethical conduct.
 
Is Tressel misleading investigators and his school not a major violation as well?

Yup; it's unethical conduct, which has warranted 2-year show cause for every coach so cited in the last two years. Ohio State self-reported it as unethical conduct.
 
When this is all said and done, there's no telling how far back the memorabilia for tats deal has been going on, at least since '01 per a former player. Also no telling the lengths that were gone to in efforts to cover it up. Is the lawyer a prominent booster? How much memorabilia did they recover, or try to recover? How much did those people require for their silence? My guess is SV and friends have been busy little beavers. A band of repo men.
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He didn't ignore them. He responded to them, and then covered them up. One is worse.

He didn't ask the source to keep any information secret nor did he ask anyone else to keep it secret. And he didn't ask anyone else to lie for him. That's the primary difference at the moment.
 
That just came out this week, so how did they self report it?

The source for the Yahoo story was someone from inside Ohio State, apparently. Ohio State received the emails from Tressell as part of a different inquiry and they began to review the matter in mid-January. Their self-report was due Friday when someone inside Ohio State (likely) leaked it to Yahoo, causing them to disclose what they were doing sooner.
 

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