Oil Rig Explosion

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vol_in_il said:
orangetoes if your still around

How come BP's not pumping the surface oil into supertankers to try and get some of the oil out of the gulf?
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my guess is that the owners of the supertankers aren't too keen to let them be used for a recovery operation like this.
 
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Are supertankers still being used to store oil for speculators?

If not, there's probably a number of empty ones sitting around.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Are supertankers still being used to store oil for speculators?

If not, there's probably a number of empty ones sitting around.
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I believe your first statement is a matter of fact.

Secondly the US should have comandeered all super tankers in our waters, started with the empty ones with the cleanup and off loaded any full one into some facility, including the national reserve asap and used them also until the leak was stopped, which may not be until this fall according to some public statements.

Another point I have heard mentioned is that there supposed to be assests near the deep water horizon to facilitate a burn off in case of a blow out but that requirement was waived in this case.

One thing is overabundantly evident, this has been handled in a very incompetent manner so far.
 
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gsvol said:
I believe your first statement is a matter of fact.

Secondly the US should have comandeered all super tankers in our waters, started with the empty ones with the cleanup and off loaded any full one into some facility, including the national reserve asap and used them also until the leak was stopped, which may not be until this fall according to some public statements.

Another point I have heard mentioned is that there supposed to be assests near the deep water horizon to facilitate a burn off in case of a blow out but that requirement was waived in this case.

One thing is overabundantly evident, this has been handled in a very incompetent manner so far.
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Would you have expected anything different?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Would you have expected anything different?
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Hell no, I've said all along that Barack Hussein Obama was a far greater threat to the American people and the American Republic than Usama bin Laden ever though of.

It's not that Barry has been incompetent in the Deep Water Horizon affair, it's that he has purposely been incompetent.

There is only one word to describe it, 'treason'.
 
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#559
#559
Well he sure isn't kicking BP's azz, more like kissing it. It makes me sick to sit and watch all that oil spill around that so called cap, what a joke. That's the best they can come up with? Why not pump that thing full of concrete? Drill a relief well and pump it full of concrete, i don't get it. This is the most dis organized cluster fooook i've ever witnessed. BP is a joke and i hope this deal ruins them forever. Obama is showing us all how great a leader he is. Made for TV president is just that.
 
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volfanjustin said:
He can start with himself, BP has been on the job since day 1 unlike he has. I am so sick of him and the left always looking to crucify businesses. He just wants to look like he is mad and is doing something, I am convinced he is thrilled about this leak, so he hopes this disaster will help him further his radical green agenda.
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You really think this is about crucifying business? If BP is crucified here, so be it.
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I don't think there's any doubt that BP will be punished, probably severely if that's the strategy Obama is relying on to buoy his handling of the disaster. While I don't have any problem with punishing BP, I'm not convinced everyhting's being done to limit the damage of the spill now. The re-drilling plan seems to do more to protect BP's interests than solve the problem, and no else seems to have been consulted. Of course, I don't understand all of the engineering difficulties, but I tend to be more with Cartervol in that I think some sort of plugging/implosion could work and could end the spill now.

JMO.
 
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volinbham said:
He doesn't know whose arse to kick yet? Hmmmm.
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That's what I found odd. Does he really need to talk to local fishermen to figure that out?

Really odd is this position in light of our Middle East apology tour.
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jvol1 said:
I don't think there's any doubt that BP will be punished, probably severely if that's the strategy Obama is relying on to buoy his handling of the disaster. While I don't have any problem with punishing BP, I'm not convinced everyhting's being done to limit the damage of the spill now. The re-drilling plan seems to do more to protect BP's interests than solve the problem, and no else seems to have been consulted. Of course, I don't understand all of the engineering difficulties, but I tend to be more with Cartervol in that I think some sort of plugging/implosion could work and could end the spill now.

JMO.
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The redrilling is designed to kill the well permanently. My understanding is that it is a "bottom kill" and that the relief well will not be a producer - it's just a more permanent way to stop the flow.

Also heard the top kill didn't work because they felt that the oil might just come up through the ocean floor; IOW the "plug" wouldn't be deep enough to prevent major seepage.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You really think this is about crucifying business? If BP is crucified here, so be it.
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As far as I can tell this was an accident, and BP is doing everything they can to stop the leak. They have lost over $75 billion in stock value, they are paying anyone who has a claim and they are paying us back for the clean up. What else do you expect them to do? I am not giving them a complete pass but I am not ready to call for them to go out of business either.
 
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volfanjustin said:
As far as I can tell this was an accident, and BP is doing everything they can to stop the leak. They have lost over $75 billion in stock value, they are paying anyone who has a claim and they are paying us back for the clean up. What else do you expect them to do? I am not giving them a complete pass but I am not ready to call for them to go out of business either.
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It wasn't intentional, but BP was clearly a lax outfit relative to the rest in the industry.

I don't care if they go out of business, but if they do, it won't be because this administration has it out for them.
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BigPapaVol said:
It wasn't intentional, but BP was clearly a lax outfit relative to the rest in the industry.

I don't care if they go out of business, but if they do, it won't be because this administration has it out for them.
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Based on precedent I figured the Obama Administration would deem BP 'Too Big to Fail'
 
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BigPapaVol said:
It wasn't intentional, but BP was clearly a lax outfit relative to the rest in the industry.

I don't care if they go out of business, but if they do, it won't be because this administration has it out for them.
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This regime has it out for every business, but that's another topic.

If they are such a lax outfit, why did this rig get an award for safety?
AllGov - News - Interior Department Gave Deepwater Horizon Operators Safety Award in 2009
 
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BigPapaVol said:
It wasn't intentional, but BP was clearly a lax outfit relative to the rest in the industry.

I don't care if they go out of business, but if they do, it won't be because this administration has it out for them.
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it's hard to tell if this was a rogue/dumbass bp manager or a general lack of oversight in BP. either way arguing this is criminal is rhetoric and laughable.
 
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droski said:
it's hard to tell if this was a rogue/dumbass bp manager or a general lack of oversight in BP. either way arguing this is criminal is rhetoric and laughable.
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the criminal investigation was simply an awful response to the public outcry for governmental action. Stupid on both parts.
 
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