Orange Bowl cancellation watch thread

#27
#27
VolsSportsFan said:
Only thing I saw that in reality isn't probably related was there was a social media push for FSU to boycott playing. But I didn't pay attention to it other than typical social media chatter.
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I still think they should go to Miami... go out and warm up... then get on the bus and leave.
 
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#28
#28
lawgator1 said:
And that's the incentive to FSU to stay there. Why venture to the SEC and face top flight competition week in and week out when you can carve up the pansies in the ACC and go 13-0 or 12-1, maybe 11-2, and back your way into the playoffs?
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LOL
 
#29
#29
bamawriter said:
The bold is correct, not only because FSU would not receive their bowl payout, but because the Orange Bowl Committee would sue the living crap out of them and would win quite easily.
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Depends on who is on the committee (jury).
 
#30
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Team 13 will get hosed just the way team 65 or 69 does in the NCAA bball tournament. It is what it is. Imagine being the 12th ranked team and missing out because Liberty went undefeated with a strength of schedule being ranked dead last in the country . SOS 133 of 133 and OU who beat Texas gets left out because the CFP was being too inclusive. That would be ironic.
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The 13th ranked team in the CFP next year will not have the same resume as an undefeated major conference champion, who also beat LSU by 3 TD's. Not possible.
 
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DarkVolder said:
You sure about that? Bama and Saban will say otherwise
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If you guys would drop the cynicism and the Alabama paranoia for a moment, and actually read the 2024 College Football Playoff format, you would understand why it won't be possible for a repeat of Florida State's snub next season.

Under :

"What is the format?"

(2nd paragraph)

"The field will comprise the selection committee's six highest-ranked conference champions and it's next six highest-ranked teams. The four highest-ranked conference champions will earn a first round bye. The other eight teams will play in the first round, with the higher seeds hosting the lower seeds on campus or at another site of their choice."

The six highest-ranked conference champions are guaranteed a slot. That should always cover the champions of the :

1) SEC
2) Big Ten
3) Big 12
4) ACC

5) & 6) .... with the champions of Conference USA, the American Athletic Conference, the MAC, the Mountain West and the Sun Belt vying for the 5th and 6th spots.

I'm not sure what is going to be done about the two teams still left in the PAC 12, and how Notre Dame will be handled, as they're still not technically a member of the ACC in football. Although, they do play an abbreviated ACC schedule.

It will not be possible for the ACC Champion to be snubbed next year.
 
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#36
I wish FSU would boycott just to deny GA the revenue!!. I doubt the bowl would pay either team due to lost advertising dollars.
 
#37
#37
BowlBrother85 said:
The 13th ranked team in the CFP next year will not have the same resume as an undefeated major conference champion, who also beat LSU by 3 TD's. Not possible.
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That’s not what I was talking about at all. I was equating how the future conversations will involve Bubble teams in football just like in basketball. The conversation will move from the 4, 5 and 6 to 10-13. If this same thing happened next season FSU would get a bye . However, if we had a 12 team CFP this season I’m pretty certain FSU would get a 5 seed and not a bye because they are clearly the current worst Power 5 conference champion and it’s not particularly close. They would be gifted Liberty at home in Tallahassee.
 
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MHS Rebel said:
I wish FSU would boycott just to deny GA the revenue!!. I doubt the bowl would pay either team due to lost advertising dollars.
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They don't pay Georgia, they pay the SEC and the bowl funds are distributed by the conference. I don't think the Orange Bowl wants a legal battle with the Southeastern Conference. They'll pay

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SEC schools get $49.9M apiece from conference

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#39
#39
508mikey said:
They better show up and play to win or the I told you so talking heads will have a field day saying they didnt belong in the playoffs
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Most people reasonably discount the meaning of non-playoff bowl outcomes, because attrition at key positions generally happens prior to those bowls and it makes a big difference in quality of play. That's also why it's reasonable for the committee to consider regular season attrition when choosing the final four.

If Florida State loses to UGA, most people will acknowledge that they aren't nearly the same team without Jordan Travis. I wouldn't care if FSU did refuse to play (won't happen though). It's a lose-lose game for Georgia.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
Most people reasonably discount the meaning of non-playoff bowl outcomes, because attrition at key positions generally happens prior to those bowls and it makes a big difference in quality of play. That's also why it's reasonable for the committee to consider regular season attrition when choosing the final four.

If Florida State loses to UGA, reasonable people will acknowledge that they aren't nearly the same team without Jordan Travis. For that reason, I wouldn't care if FSU did refuse to play (won't happen though). It's a lose-lose game for Georgia.
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would be funny if FSU did win though
 
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#42
They will viewed as cowards if they opt out after all the crying about how they belonged in the final four.
 
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#43
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Delmar said:
It will not quiet the noise. Nobody knows how many of the first line players either team will have. Nor does anybody know the interest level of each team. I haven’t paid any attention to bowl game results for several years because of the opt-outs and never knowing which team wants to be there. Always like it when UT wins a game but I’m not going to get bent out of shape on a loss if we are missing multiple starters because of opt-outs and transfers.

As far as the gist of the article, it won’t happen because of money but I am really hoping FSU shows up, goes out on the field for the kickoff and then the entire team locks arms and walks to the locker room, gets dressed and gets back on the buses. That would send the middle finger to every clown on that committee and to the powers that be (Greg Sankey) that intimidated/influenced them.
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I am wondering how a boycott hurts the committee? they are only involved in the playoffs. they don't lose any money if FSU doesn't play in a BOWL game. they don't lose any prestige from a non-playoff team not playing.

if anything it gives the committee more power because they know their choice has a deep impact and they can play favorites and get teams to forfeit major bowl game money.

and I agree with several others, FSU would be dumb to pass up the money considering their off seasons complaints about not getting enough $$$.
 
#44
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Volsfaninva917 said:
They don't pay Georgia, they pay the SEC and the bowl funds are distributed by the conference. I don't think the Orange Bowl wants a legal battle with the Southeastern Conference. They'll pay

www.espn.com

SEC schools get $49.9M apiece from conference

The Southeastern Conference says it distributed an average of $49.9 million to its 14 member schools for the fiscal year that ended last August.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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and the Orange Bowl would just sue Florida State for lost revenue and probably win.
 
#45
#45
LouderVol said:
and the Orange Bowl would just sue Florida State for lost revenue and probably win.
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The Orange Bowl, the SEC, and the ACC would each sue FSU.

They'll play because they're saving all their lawyer money to look for a way out of the ACC Grant of Rights so they can leave.
 
#46
#46
KoachKrab127 said:
If I had an AP vote, I would vote FSU #1 at the end of the season in protest, even if they lose to UGA. I mean, the playoff committee proved that winning doesn’t matter, so why should a loss to UGA matter?
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Liberty went 13-0. Doesn't that matter?
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
That’s not what I was talking about at all. I was equating how the future conversations will involve Bubble teams in football just like in basketball. The conversation will move from the 4, 5 and 6 to 10-13. If this same thing happened next season FSU would get a bye . However, if we had a 12 team CFP this season I’m pretty certain FSU would get a 5 seed and not a bye because they are clearly the current worst Power 5 conference champion and it’s not particularly close. They would be gifted Liberty at home in Tallahassee.
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There will always be some whining, with someone thinking they got a raw deal, while the blue bloods got preferential treatment. Eventually, I think there will be a 16 team format, with no byes ... but still plenty of whining.
 
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