O'Reilly upsets Joy Behar and Whoopi

[VolBurgers]

So you believe Bush lied to about the reason for war yet you are now quoting him as gospel?

He was lying one time or the other, which time was it? I'll let you pick.

 

[kptvol]

What does that mean? Show me the evidence. I really want to be proven wrong here.

Right. I can't show you evidence to prove they were there. Thus, they could not possibly have been there. More likely it was a huge conspiracy that Kerry was also in on.

 

[VolBurgers]

I can't show you evidence to prove they were there.

Fair enough. Cant argue there. :hi:

Edit: Just to be clear, you can't show evidence that even suggests they were, much less proves they were.

 

[BeecherVol]

What does that mean? Show me the evidence. I really want to be proven wrong here.

Another quote.

More recently, Kerry said on October 9, 2002; "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.

 

[rjd970]

All I know is back to the original subject, there are some very scary parts of Islam right now...that unlike many of the other world religions, are still practiced and preached regularly. Denying this fact is silly. People can say what they want about Chritianity and otherwise, and far be it from me to defend the history of Christianity, but the simple fact remains that unlike present day Christianity, we have a significant portion of the Islamic population still thinking in 7th century mindsets, and they are armed with 21st century weapons. This is scary, and it needs to be recognized.

Of course there are nasty parts of other religions, including Christianity, and every religion has its fair share of bloodshed based on stupidity. Islam, however, still practices it today. How anyone can disagree with this is beyond me.

 

[VolBurgers]

Another quote.

More recently, Kerry said on October 9, 2002; "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.

I already know John Kerry is an idiot, you are showing me nothing.

 

[MontereyVol]

Evidently it was strong enough to convince John Kerry to say he'd have also invaded Iraq.

What does that mean? Show me the evidence. I really want to be proven wrong here.

Kerry stands by 'yes' vote on Iraq war - CNN

I dont care two shts what John Kerry said. Show me the evidence linking Iraq to Al Queda.

So you are provided proof and you back off to another argument?

 

[MontereyVol]

He was lying one time or the other, which time was it? I'll let you pick.

I would definitely choose the latter.

 

[VolBurgers]

So you are provided proof and you back off to another argument?

I was provided proof of what? That John Kerry said something stupid? Im SHOCKED, seriously.

 

[VolBurgers]

I would definitely choose the latter.

Fair enough. :hi:

 

[VolBurgers]

So you are provided proof and you back off to another argument?

I wasn't backing off to another argument. You're having a hard time following along.

I've been wanting evidence that supports the idea that Iraq was harboring terrorists, nothing else. I literally could not care less about anything John Kerry has ever said.

 

[tim]

I'm of the opinion that there's more to the story than we actually know. Rightfully so. Does anyone really believe that the general public could be responsible knowing everything that went into the decision to go to war? There are probably people who put their lives and their families in jeopardy by cooperating. To out them or our other surveillance techniques is not very intelligent.

 

[BeecherVol]

I dont care two shts what John Kerry said. Show me the evidence linking Iraq to Al Queda.

The point is you are claiming that Bush lied to start a war. Just showing you who he was in with in selling this lie. Was all the intell. 100% correct. No, when is it ever. But it was enough to sell his strongest adversaries, which makes it hard to believe the Michael Moore intell. passed on later.

 

[MontereyVol]

Right. I can't show you evidence to prove they were there. Thus, they could not possibly have been there. More likely it was a huge conspiracy that Kerry was also in on.

The evidence was shown on world wide news, The Bush quote Burger used is Bush deflecting away from it, for a military reason.

The evidence is still there, the material is not.

 

[VolBurgers]

The point is you are claiming that Bush lied to start a war. Just showing you who he was in with in selling this lie. Was all the intell. 100% correct. No, when is it ever. But it was enough to sell his strongest adversaries, which makes it hard to believe the Michael Moore intell. passed on later.

Wow, the bush administration lied and some dolty (d) bought it hook, line, and sinker? Color me shocked.

 

[MontereyVol]

I wasn't backing off to another argument. You're having a hard time following along.

I've been wanting evidence that supports the idea that Iraq was harboring terrorists, nothing else. I literally could not care less about anything John Kerry has ever said.

I thought we were discussing WMD's. Thats what you were arguing with me.

 

[VolBurgers]

The evidence was shown on world wide news, The Bush quote Burger used is Bush deflecting away from it, for a military reason.

The evidence is still there, the material is not.

Where is one iota of evidence? Please link me to it.

 

[BeecherVol]

Wow, the bush administration lied and some dolty (d) bought it hook, line, and sinker? Color me shocked.

He wasn't the only one.

 

[VolBurgers]

I thought we were discussing WMD's. Thats what you were arguing with me.

Right and there is no evidence of WMD. Even Bush said it himself, what else do you need?

 

[MontereyVol]

Wow, the bush administration lied and some dolty (d) bought it hook, line, and sinker? Color me shocked.

Bush did not lie, it was one of many reasons we went to war with Iraq. He choose the one to sell to the public poorly and got burned by the French in doing so.

 

[tim]

VB. Guy points a gun at you and says he's gonna kill you. You're armed to the teeth and trained out the azz. What's your move?

 

[MontereyVol]

Right and there is no evidence of WMD. Even Bush said it himself, what else do you need?

And I told you he lied. Did you read the link I posted?

 

[VolBurgers]

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The consensus of intelligence experts has been that these contacts never led to an operational relationship, and that consensus is backed up by reports from the independent 9/11 Commission and by declassified Defense Department reports[3] as well as by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, whose 2006 report of Phase II of its investigation into prewar intelligence reports concluded that there was no evidence of ties between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda. Critics of the Bush Administration have said Bush was intentionally building a case for war with Iraq without regard to factual evidence. On April 29, 2007, former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet said on 60 Minutes, "We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period."[5]

 

[BeecherVol]

Bush did not lie, it was one of many reasons we went to war with Iraq. He choose the one to sell to the public poorly and got burned by the French in doing so.

If he along with everyone else listed that was looking at the intell was wrong, they had to lie. But that doesn't sound as good politically.

 

[VolBurgers]

And I told you he lied.

So we agree George Bush is a liar? :good!: