Pay the manTony V.

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#156
vol66 said:
Taking my Vol fandom out of the equation for a second. I dunno much, but I know this…the other UT completely destroyed the big 12. That place is a poop show. Don’t see either coach going there. Money isn’t everything.
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They will play nice for a few years in the SEC.

But I got my popcorn ready. They eventually will challenge the other schools.

I just hope that our UT as well as the other conference stalwarts stand their ground. If Junior doesn’t want to play straight, invite them to walk.
 
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EZE said:
They will play nice for a few years in the SEC.

But I got my popcorn ready. They eventually will challenge the other schools.

I just hope that our UT as well as the other conference stalwarts stand their ground. If Junior doesn’t want to play straight, invite them to walk.
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They can't help themselves. Any opportunity they can take to shove their hog on the table they take it...and they are petty. Today's action was petty against Texas A&M.

One of the best stories I've heard was back when the Big 12 formed and Texas played Nebraska in the football championship. They had a pregame meeting for simple administrative matters (# of band seats, will call chairs, seats in boxes, etc. etc.) and it turned into pretty much Texas one upping everything Nebraska requested to the point it was obvious they were just being assholes.

But the reality was Texas was going somewhere. Big Ten or SEC and the SEC couldn't afford to let them go off to the Big Ten with Oklahoma.
 
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WVU05UT09 said:
But the reality was Texas was going somewhere. Big Ten or SEC and the SEC couldn't afford to let them go off to the Big Ten with Oklahoma.
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That is exactly the mentality that must be avoided.

The SEC will survive just fine with or without Texas. If they start with the shat, let them decide if they want to travel up to the Canadian border when it is cold from late September and into April-May to play games.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
It will help, but we are still likely to never break even on baseball here. Only 3-4 schools do. But DW and the athletic department know that a winning baseball program does more than just being in revenue. Winning and being on TV has a lot of value outside of just dollars brought in, which is why they are going to be extremely willing to pour in money to the sport.

Besides, if football keeps trending in the direction it is, the revenue generated from that will more than pay for the pennies on the dollar operating expenses of the baseball program.
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Maybe in the past, but with the media deals and meteoric rise of college baseball, I'm not so sure it won't be very profitable for more schools. Just last year was 40% higher viewership than the previous year, and data so far up to super regionals this year is already 20% more than last year. I also think MLB teams are looking at college to scale down their farm systems, and I don't remember so many college players drafted over high schoolers every year. I didn't look too far back to verify this completely, but just trends the last 2-3 years college players are dominating the draft, but I'm not sure if it is related to covid at all or more players are going to college rather than minors. I just feel like, with rule changes to compensation, players have a choice now to go to college AND make money, not or.
 
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CMcEver said:
Maybe in the past, but with the media deals and meteoric rise of college baseball, I'm not so sure it won't be very profitable for more schools. Just last year was 40% higher viewership than the previous year, and data so far up to super regionals this year is already 20% more than last year. I also think MLB teams are looking at college to scale down their farm systems, and I don't remember so many college players drafted over high schoolers every year. I didn't look too far back to verify this completely, but just trends the last 2-3 years college players are dominating the draft, but I'm not sure if it is related to covid at all or more players are going to college rather than minors. I just feel like, with rule changes to compensation, players have a choice now to go to college AND make money, not or.
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We can hope. But in another thread, you may or may not have seen the 2023 revenues/expenses breakdown for 2023 at UT. Media rights only brought in $19,000. There just isn’t going to be a drastic enough change any time soon to get the number up enough to make money. It would have to come on standard operating expenses like ticket sales, which just won’t happen for a little while. It’s not impossible to break even, but it’s hard.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
We can hope. But in another thread, you may or may not have seen the 2023 revenues/expenses breakdown for 2023 at UT. Media rights only brought in $19,000. There just isn’t going to be a drastic enough change any time soon to get the number up enough to make money. It would have to come on standard operating expenses like ticket sales, which just won’t happen for a little while. It’s not impossible to break even, but it’s hard.
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If they want to make rights money then the sport will die quickly. I think college baseball being full access for $10 a month with ESPN+ vs MLB having one game a week on espn Sunday night and having the subscribe somewhere for the rest is a big reason for college baseball’s explosion in popularity.
 
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EZE said:
That is exactly the mentality that must be avoided.

The SEC will survive just fine with or without Texas. If they start with the shat, let them decide if they want to travel up to the Canadian border when it is cold from late September and into April-May to play
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A Big Ten with Texas could easily put the Big Ten $20M+ more per school than the SEC.

The bigger danger there is the more territory the Big Ten has the more likely you push Notre Dame to them. Then you are talking $40M+

You can't have that in this day and age.
 
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#166
TheMookieMonster said:
I know D1 is a paid site, but does anyone have access and care to share the portions that mention Vitello?

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Here ya go:

I have no doubt the Longhorns will try to lure Tony into taking the job in Austin if Schlossnagle is a no-go. However, sources close to the situation in Knoxville insist that they are close to securing a new, updated contract for the ultra-successful Volunteers skipper. It’s not to say I ‘should’ know everything, but if there’s movement on the Vitello front with Texas, it’s something I simply have not heard about. Vitello is an outstanding coach, and he is essentially getting a brand-new ballpark. He’s an absolute rockstar in East Tennessee. The Texas job is elite as elite gets, but it would surprise me if he’s willing to give up what he has built in Knoxville. The Vols are on an incredible run.
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How much do we pay all those VN coaches who really showed their stuff especially the last 2 inning?
 
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If Texas were in a weaker league or if CTV had issues at UT that prevented him from being able to recruit or coach to a standard, I’d see it. But they’ll be in the SEC next year and he already has shown that a natty can be won at UT. I don’t see the logic in going somewhere else that affords the same opportunity as what you already have. He is set as it is.
 
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I hope those of you who think Tony is safe are correct. Texas does have some deep pockets and they will make people say No. While we are worrying, what Danny White is doing has not gone unnoticed. Let’s hope loyalty is a thing.
 
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