Pearl to Iowa??

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BigPapaVol said:
I'm not changing the argument. You've made 25 wins, o average some big differentiator. It's not. It's a hollow stat. I said it's done 40 times per year, meaning it's commonplace. You harped on it, not anyone else. You consistently fall back to thus point and I consistently say nobody cares because vollege basketball coaches are measured by March Ws. That has never changed, ever.

Your irreplaceability argument is based upon 25 win seasons on average. Who cares? You gave a list of those who can't, bit have huge titles to their credit. That doesn't say every idiot can understand. Your insufferable support of our regular season wins and tourney failures says you don't believe it.

Your conferences argument is you changing the argument, right, since it's meaningless here. Our schedule has a truckload of gimmes on it, further diluting the value of 25 wins. In tossup games, or anything close, we fare very poorly.
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Off topic, my boy Gonzo has officially lost control of his team.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Herb Pope has been ejected for throwing a punch, Jeremy Hazell got up and went to the dressing room with a mystery injury, and Texas Tech is beating the Hell out of them.
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I saw the punch but not the rest. Pope is a POS.
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Unimane said:
Well, I liked DeVoe, but his NCAA record was 5-6 and Pearl is 5-4 (Plus he's won 2 games in the tourney twice, which DeVoe never did.)
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So Pearl still has a chance to catch DeVoe.

But as you pointed out he's also underachieved twice. So we can expect Bruce to underachieve 50% of the time.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
It was. That changes things. Let's celebrate those Sweet 16 bowouts now.
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Yeah, let's be a smartass when proven wrong, as usual. Plus, the Sweet 16 is such a horrible achievement. They are so common as Tennessee fans.

Also, DeVoe was in the same type of tournament situation as Pearl (except once) by playing in the first round of a 48 team event. Again, though, I liked DeVoe a lot. I don't think I'd want to hire him now, though, if that's what we're arguing.
 
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Unimane said:
Yeah, let's be a smartass when proven wrong, as usual. Plus, the Sweet 16 is such a horrible achievement. They are so common as Tennessee fans.

Also, DeVoe was in the same type of tournament situation as Pearl (except once) by playing in the first round of a 48 team event. Again, though, I liked DeVoe a lot. I don't think I'd want to hire him now, though, if that's what we're arguing.
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You PROVED me wrong. Awesome work. That was a doozy. Let's get some more Jan wins since you watch and minimize those March Ls since they don't help your quest.

Maybe you didn't mean the basketball guru crap to be provacative. I'm probably just reading into it, since you're the hero in this story.
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BigPapaVol said:
Where did I claim guru status? I'm not marching in here claiming white knight status then crawling to Hoopstards whining about it.
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Spare me the passive-aggressive. The whole 25 wins on average was so typical. I was arguing a specific point and, when I proved my point, you changed the focus to "oh, well, it's so typical that you don't value the postseason" which wasn't even the point we were discussing at that time. That's what pissed me off, that the whole focus was changed to something I wasn't even arguing simply to redirect your false claim (which you also brushed aside after specifically and incorrectly addressing it). Don't misrepresent my point when it's clear what I'm specifically arguing.

And let me know when I go and "tell" on you to Hoopstards, whatever that is. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
 
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Unimane said:
It's PearlophIles, genius, and you still didn't follow the point I was trying to make. You can always tell the Anti-Pearlistas with the moronic arguments, like the one above. We've had early exits only twice since Pearl got here, not "every single year".
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Oh my bad, so Pearlophile, let us look:

2005-2006: #2 Seed, buzzer-beater away from losing to #15 Winthrop. Loses to #7 Wichita State in the second round.

2006-2007: #5 Seed, allows a pathetic LBS team to score 80+, Upsets a one dimensional Virginia team. Blows a 20+ point lead against Ohio State.

2007-2008: 31-5, #1 Ranking, #2 Seed. Plays pathetic with JP Prince at point against #15 American. Squeaks by Butler, fails to show up against Louisville.

2008-2009: #9 Seed, loses to Oklahoma State in first round.

2009-2010: #6 Seed, projected by many people to lose in first round.

Tell me Pearlophile hoops guru, what is so special about underachieving?
 
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Unimane said:
Yeah, let's be a smartass when proven wrong, as usual. Plus, the Sweet 16 is such a horrible achievement. They are so common as Tennessee fans.

Also, DeVoe was in the same type of tournament situation as Pearl (except once) by playing in the first round of a 48 team event. Again, though, I liked DeVoe a lot. I don't think I'd want to hire him now, though, if that's what we're arguing.
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DeVoe has gotten a raw deal several times. He went to Navy and was a good coach. After success in the late 90s and a drop off for a couple years, the thought they could do so much better. Look how pathetic they are now.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You PROVED me wrong. Awesome work. That was a doozy. Let's get some more Jan wins since you watch and minimize those March Ls since they don't help your quest.

Maybe you didn't mean the basketball guru crap to be provacative. I'm probably just reading into it, since you're the hero in this story.
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Again, passive-agressive.

And, one more time, I was arguing, specifically that averaging 25 wins was not common among coached, which you disagreed and I was proven right. You then changed my argument to saying I didn't care about the postseason, which wasn't the case.

Stop making yourself some kind of martyr.
 
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bam15 said:
Oh my bad, so Pearlophile, let us look:

2005-2006: #2 Seed, buzzer-beater away from losing to #15 Winthrop. Loses to #9 Wichita State in the second round.

2006-2007: #5 Seed, allows a pathetic LBS team to score 80+, Upsets a one dimensional Virginia team. Blows a 20+ point lead against Ohio State.

2007-2008: 31-5, #1 Ranking, #2 Seed. Plays pathetic with JP Prince at point against #15 American. Squeaks by Butler, fails to show up against Louisville.

2008-2009: #9 Seed, loses to Oklahoma State in first round.

2009-2010: #6 Seed, projected by many people to lose in first round.

Tell me Pearlophile hoops guru, what is so special about underachieving?
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Well, as long as we're projected to lose, I guess that counts, too, right?!?! Oh my god, I'm done arguing after that stupidity.
 
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Unimane said:
Spare me the passive-aggressive. The whole 25 wins on average was so typical. I was arguing a specific point and, when I proved my point, you changed the focus to "oh, well, it's so typical that you don't value the postseason" which wasn't even the point we were discussing at that time. That's what pissed me off, that the whole focus was changed to something I wasn't even arguing simply to redirect your false claim (which you also brushed aside after specifically and incorrectly addressing it). Don't misrepresent my point when it's clear what I'm specifically arguing.

And let me know when I go and "tell" on you to Hoopstards, whatever that is. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
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Again, you leveled the lame 25 win strawman. You didnt prove Jack. I said 40 teams per year do it. that's not meritorious. Top 40 wins list isn't a measure in basketball. Final eight at tourney time is. You threw out a measure that I find worthless. I disimissed it. Your rebuttal disnt make it any more meaningful. Climbing win total in college ball are crap. Teams play a limited number of competitive style meaningful games. All the rest are prep.

Again, you presented a point superfluous to the conversation about replacing Pearl if necessary. Maybe you'll recall that. Your measure is not THE measure. THE measure is nearly universally agreed to be March.
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bam15 said:
Oh my bad, so Pearlophile, let us look:

2005-2006: #2 Seed, buzzer-beater away from losing to #15 Winthrop. Loses to #9 Wichita State in the second round.

2006-2007: #5 Seed, allows a pathetic LBS team to score 80+, Upsets a one dimensional Virginia team. Blows a 20+ point lead against Ohio State.

2007-2008: 31-5, #1 Ranking, #2 Seed. Plays pathetic with JP Prince at point against #15 American. Squeaks by Butler, fails to show up against Louisville.

2008-2009: #9 Seed, loses to Oklahoma State in first round.

2009-2010: #6 Seed, projected by many people to lose in first round.

Tell me Pearlophile hoops guru, what is so special about underachieving?
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I am still crushed by that loss to OSU. I don't think I'll ever be able to recover from it until we break this elite 8 barrier.
 
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bam15 said:
Oh my bad, so Pearlophile, let us look:

2005-2006: #2 Seed, buzzer-beater away from losing to #15 Winthrop. Loses to #9 Wichita State in the second round.

2006-2007: #5 Seed, allows a pathetic LBS team to score 80+, Upsets a one dimensional Virginia team. Blows a 20+ point lead against Ohio State.

2007-2008: 31-5, #1 Ranking, #2 Seed. Plays pathetic with JP Prince at point against #15 American. Squeaks by Butler, fails to show up against Louisville.

2008-2009: #9 Seed, loses to Oklahoma State in first round.

2009-2010: #6 Seed, projected by many people to lose in first round.

Tell me Pearlophile hoops guru, what is so special about underachieving?
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Underachieving in the tournament? Or over-achieving to get there?? I think we played above our means in the regular season and by the time we made the tournaments we had already peaked.

i think everyone recognized that we were totally outmatched by Louisville. They were playing really well.

Ohio State was a great team. National Championship runner-ups. 3 first round draft picks, Oden, Connelly, and Cook.
 
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Unimane said:
Again, passive-agressive.

And, one more time, I was arguing, specifically that averaging 25 wins was not common among coached, which you disagreed and I was proven right. You then changed my argument to saying I didn't care about the postseason, which wasn't the case.

Stop making yourself some kind of martyr.
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I missed your proof. Please reference it again.
 
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#448
Please! Enough with the 'Pearlophile' nonsense! We're 'SLURPERS', now! S-L-U-R-P-E-R-S!

IMO, there's a ZERO % chance of Bruce going to Iowa, if that still matters in this thread.
 
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Unimane said:
Again, passive-agressive.

And, one more time, I was arguing, specifically that averaging 25 wins was not common among coached, which you disagreed and I was proven right. You then changed my argument to saying I didn't care about the postseason, which wasn't the case.

Stop making yourself some kind of martyr.
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Me the martyr? You're the one whining that I gave your "victory" jab a counter. You weren't proven right. Nobody looked after that stat was dismissed as meaningless. Maybe that's what you missed. Nobody considers average reg season wins irreplaceable. You were using it as your argument. Thats crap.

Your specific bs was simply interjecting a meaningless stat to the debate. Prior to your gallant arrival, it wasn't a measure here. You keep chastising people for failure to follow your points throughout the thread. PM yourself here and get it straight. You brought crap. You could have just as easily lobbed in his Maccabi games title.
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