Pearl to Iowa??

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VolDad said:
Now if we were talking Indiana...
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Slurper or not, I know he's not going anywhere with the 2010 class and Maymon coming to town. Does anyone else think this class is an intentional departure in terms of character, of recruits Bruce has brought to campus in his tenure?

Indiana > 0%....
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Again, you leveled the lame 25 win strawman. You didnt prove Jack. I said 40 teams per year do it. that's not meritorious. Top 40 wins list isn't a measure in basketball. Final eight at tourney time is. You threw out a measure that I find worthless. I disimissed it. Your rebuttal disnt make it any more meaningful. Climbing win total in college ball are crap. Teams play a limited number of competitive style meaningful games. All the rest are prep.

Again, you presented a point superfluous to the conversation about replacing Pearl if necessary. Maybe you'll recall that. Your measure is not THE measure. THE measure is nearly universally agreed to be March.
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How hard is this to understand, seriously? I was arguing a specific point, nothing, not one damn word, about the postseason. I was arguing why the 25 wins average was an accomplishment, not the be all end all you keep saying that I mention.

So, the postseason is important? More important than winning 25 games a year? Duh. Thanks for the brilliant observation. I never said otherwise. However, the season does serve a purpose and so winning 25 a year does have value and shows consistancy.
 
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VolDad said:
I missed your proof. Please reference it again.
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Uh oh! The circle jerk has arrived!! Where's Loften, Law..? It's about time to circle the wagons and have the smartest people tell each other how much more intelligent they are.
 
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Unimane said:
How hard is this to understand, seriously? I was arguing a specific point, nothing, not one damn word, about the postseason. I was arguing why the 25 wins average was an accomplishment, not the be all end all you keep saying that I mention.

So, the postseason is important? More important than winning 25 games a year? Duh. Thanks for the brilliant observation. I never said otherwise. However, the season does serve a purpose and so winning 25 a year does have value and shows consistancy.
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The entire conversation is about the replaceability of our coach. Again with the context thing upon which you like to harp. High wins and early bowouts got Green fired. It will get Pearl fired if unaddressed. He can be replaced with a guy who can win March ballgames, regardless of your amazing specific point that I so brazenly find meaningless.
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I thought it was Oregon. My bad, wrong thread?

I guess its ok though. Next coach fired you will be starting another rumour thread.
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
Slurper or not, I know he's not going anywhere with the 2010 class and Maymon coming to town. Does anyone else think this class is an intentional departure in terms of character, of recruits Bruce has brought to campus in his tenure?

Indiana > 0%....
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How is bringing in a guy who whined and cried about being asked to sacrifice for the team at Marquette raising the character bar?
 
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Unimane said:
Uh oh! The circle jerk has arrived!! Where's Loften, Law..? It's about time to circle the wagons and have the smartest people tell each other how much more intelligent they are.
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You're the one acting superior, genius.

Where are the rest of the slurpers?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Me the martyr? You're the one whining that I gave your "victory" jab a counter. You weren't proven right. Nobody looked after that stat was dismissed as meaningless. Maybe that's what you missed. Nobody considers average reg season wins irreplaceable. You were using it as your argument. Thats crap.

Your specific bs was simply interjecting a meaningless stat to the debate. Prior to your gallant arrival, it wasn't a measure here. You keep chastising people for failure to follow your points throughout the thread. PM yourself here and get it straight. You brought crap. You could have just as easily lobbed in his Maccabi games title.
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Who is "nobody"? The other people who weren't involved in the specific argument in the first place? And why is it that the same group who proclaims themselves smarter than everyone else uses the falacious bandwagon argument?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
The entire conversation is about the replaceability of our coach. Again with the context thing upon which you like to harp. High wins and early bowouts got Green fired. It will get Pearl fired if unaddressed. He can be replaced with a guy who can win March ballgames, regardless of your amazing specific point that I so brazenly find meaningless.
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We haven't had one of those guys ever (except on the ladies side). Probably lots of us no longer have the energy to chase that select elite level and we just root for who we have at the time.
 
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hatvol96 said:
How is bringing in a guy who whined and cried about being asked to sacrifice for the team at Marquette raising the character bar?
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Because whiners don't pack heat, historically (except for Aaron Burr), and whiners wouldn't be whining if they were high?
 
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Unimane said:
Uh oh! The circle jerk has arrived!! Where's Loften, Law..? It's about time to circle the wagons and have the smartest people tell each other how much more intelligent they are.
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Arrived?!? I have been in the thread all day and addressed you at 9:30.

Nice attempt to deflect though. Now about that proof?


VolDad said:
Why does that matter when 16 look like this:
Austin Peay
UNC Asheville
East Carolina
College of Charleston
ETSU
Middle Tennessee State
Wyoming
NC A&T
Charlotte
Auburn
Alabama
LSU
South Carolina (Home)
Georgia
South Carolina (Away)
LSU (SECT)
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BigPapaVol said:
The entire conversation is about the replaceability of our coach. Again with the context thing upon which you like to harp. High wins and early bowouts got Green fired. It will get Pearl fired if unaddressed. He can be replaced with a guy who can win March ballgames, regardless of your amazing specific point that I so brazenly find meaningless.
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Green got fired for a multitude of reasons that Pearl hasn't come close to needing to address. And, once again, tell me why the coach with the best NCAA record in school history will "get fired if unaddressed"?

Besides, if you you go back to my original argument, you'll notice my stance was much different than the one you have been stating. I assume, though, that you got caught up in the specific argument that only became "meaningless" when I demostrated it wasn't as common as you were professing.
 
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Unimane said:
Who is "nobody"? The other people who weren't involved in the specific argument in the first place? And why is it that the same group who proclaims themselves smarter than everyone else uses the falacious bandwagon argument?
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Fine. Nobody was making that point in the debate you so gallantly entered. Again, you lose to your whiny, condescending context argument. Nobody to that point had offered it up as something needing to be replaced if our guy bolts for Oregon. Not once. None, nyet. Zero. You introduced it midstream. I dismissed it at routine. Going on about it was actually YOU changing the argument to something that supports your POV. It actually had nothing to do with the point at hand.

Odd isn't it. Your strawman wasn't even mentioned. Your specificity wasn't supported as a necessity. I didnt see anyone on that rarity bandwagon. Fair enough? Your strawman was the fallacious piece.
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Unimane said:
Green got fired for a multitude of reasons that Pearl hasn't come close to needing to address. And, once again, tell me why the coach with the best NCAA record in school history will "get fired if unaddressed"?

Besides, if you you go back to my original argument, you'll notice my stance was much different than the one you have been stating. I assume, though, that you got caught up in the specific argument that only became "meaningless" when I demostrated it wasn't as common as you were professing.
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Green got fired for losing in the tourney, period. All the other was excuses.

Your argument was tgat 25 wins on average is some magical, mythical accomplishment that we can't replace. It was properly addressed as hollow and meaningless.
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VolDad said:
Arrived?!? I have been in the thread all day and addressed you at 9:30.

Nice attempt to deflect though. Now about that proof?
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that's just dumb. You can't complain too much about the regular season under Pearl. I can accept the post season criticism. But for the most part, his regular seasons have been a success.

btw, congratulations on being on the thread all day. that's incredible
 
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golfballs03 said:
that's just dumb. Tennessee consistently plays a pretty tough regular season schedule, and you find cupcakes on everyones schedule. You can't complain too much about the regular season under Pearl. I can accept the post season criticism. But for the most part, his regular seasons have been a success.

btw, congratulations on being on the thread all day. that's incredible
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There is no denying his regular season success. I just wish it translated to post season success.

... and thank you!
 
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VolDad said:
You mean there are other 25 win teams. I thought you had proven Pearl's teams are the only ones.
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You missed the very specific point. It's average wins, which are more important and more irreplaceable.
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BigPapaVol said:
Green got fired for losing in the tourney, period. All the other was excuses.

Your argument was tgat 25 wins on average is some magical, mythical accomplishment that we can't replace. It was properly addressed as hollow and meaningless.
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No, I didn't, that's just what you decided I said. I said that 25 wins is nothing to spit at and was not common, a very good accomplishment not made by many highly respected coaches. Nowhere did I say it was some "magical" accomplishment and the determining factor in a great coach. I did say it was a signifier of a very good and consistant coach. Obviously, March is the most important component of college ball.

Also, Green got fired because he refused to recruit, constant fading at the end of the season, dwindling attendence, lack of respect among his players and dislike of him among administrators as well as losing by 30 to SW Missouri St.
 
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Unimane said:
No, I didn't, that's just what you decided I said. I said that 25 wins is nothing to spit at and was not common, a very good accomplishment not made by many highly respected coaches. Nowhere did I say it was some "magical" accomplishment and the determining factor in a great coach. I did say it was a signifier of a very good and consistant coach. Obviously, March is the most important component of college ball.

Also, Green got fired because he refused to recruit, constant fading at the end of the season, dwindling attendence, lack of respect among his players and dislike of him among administrators as well as losing by 30 to SW Missouri St.
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Yes you did.

Again, Green closes out UNC, he's still around with his results. Winning in March cures all the other trivial crap.
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