Pearl's Already Gone: The Exit Strategy Hypothesis

As I understand it, his contract had stipulations in it for a buyout. Firing him when did contractually left us with no option other than to pay him that money.

Right, but didn't the new deal in 07 make his buyout in 08 all the more expensive? He went from on the verge of fired to an extended deal in the same season, and was fired the next year with a bigger buyout then he would have had if they just didn't extend him or increase buyout. I could just not understand it correctly, but it made no sense to me to extend him and his buyout when he was so close to being gone in 07
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It actually makes perfect sense. Pearl gets some cash in appreciation for what he's accomplished here to tide him over for the next couple of years and UT doesn't have to go through the nasty business of straight up firing him. Everyone wins.

very well put...
 
Here's my original statement,

"Bruce Pearl and Tennessee have mutually agreed to part ways at season's end, for their respective best interests."

PM me with your details as to that - as your suggested language contains intentionally unique caveats that would likely prove fatal.

Do you disagree with my original statement, above?

I certainly don't see a wager in that statement, unless you are saying it's a clean separation with both parties happily walking away and living ever after. There is way too much money involved for that to be a possibility at this point. Pearl and his wife have shown too much fight to just walk away at the end of the season. Pearl will jump on every media outlet available eloquently positioning himself as the victim.

The PR we've grown to love BP for will certainly work against us as well during the breakup.
 
I'm amazed at the number of people on here who don't understand what it means to have a contract terminated. Tennessee doesn't owe Bruce Pearl one more dime if they fire him at lunch today. UT informed Pearl and his counsel they were terminating the contract for cause. Pearl accepted said action, because it was a condition of him coaching this year. Had he chosen to contest the termination, he'd have been gone in September.
 
It actually makes perfect sense. Pearl gets some cash in appreciation for what he's accomplished here to tide him over for the next couple of years and UT doesn't have to go through the nasty business of straight up firing him. Everyone wins.

I disagree. I think UT would be generous in just offering Pearl the opportunity to resign and pretend he "fell on the sword" to save face. Tennessee would look better from a PR standpoint to fire Pearl. I just don't see the point in offering a man you've paid millions to more money in hopes of getting him to resign when he would jump at the opportunity for no money.
 
Perhaps if there is agreement for him to step down at the end of the season, it is an agreement, not a deal. Using the word deal implies that money is involved.
 
I disagree. I think UT would be generous in just offering Pearl the opportunity to resign and pretend he "fell on the sword" to save face. Tennessee would look better from a PR standpoint to fire Pearl. I just don't see the point in offering a man you've paid millions to more money in hopes of getting him to resign when he would jump at the opportunity for no money.
Disagree. Pewrl did wonders for this program and we should recognize that. We don't like that it's ending or the way it's ending, but his success has been unmistakeable. Im all for us making this amicable.
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He has nothing he could use against UT. He should just be grateful he was able to coach this season.

I agree completely but it is in UT's best interest to do things as cordially as possible. IMO. If he kindly walks away and it is a peaceful seperation it works well for all and it fades quicker. I don't have a problem with a settlement of some sort. There are plenty of cases where coaches were fired for cause and still made a lengthy, nasty ordeal of it. Happens all the time. The last thing UT needs is Pearl popping off in the media during the season next year, even if he doesn't have a legitimate gripe. It will get attention and won't be good. Again, jmo
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Disagree. Pewrl did wonders for this program and we should recognize that. We don't like that it's ending or the way it's ending, but his success has been unmistakeable. Im all for us making this amicable.
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I guess I just look at it differently. They've paid him millions and millions. That should be enough in my opinion, but I understand what you and Hat are saying.
 
Disagree. Pewrl did wonders for this program and we should recognize that. We don't like that it's ending or the way it's ending, but his success has been unmistakeable. Im all for us making this amicable.
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What's "amicable" in terms of money is the devil in the details.
 
I'm amazed at the number of people on here who don't understand what it means to have a contract terminated. Tennessee doesn't owe Bruce Pearl one more dime if they fire him at lunch today. UT informed Pearl and his counsel they were terminating the contract for cause. Pearl accepted said action, because it was a condition of him coaching this year. Had he chosen to contest the termination, he'd have been gone in September.

I'm amazed that people believe that UT will offer Pearl some severance for duties performed regardless of obligation and it not get ugly. The terms were clear for Fulmer and it was ugly as hell.
 
I agree completely but it is in UT's best interest to do things as cordially as possible. IMO. If he kindly walks away and it is a peaceful seperation it works well for all and it fades quicker. I don't have a problem with a settlement of some sort. There are plenty of cases where coaches were fired for cause and still made a lengthy, nasty ordeal of it. Happens all the time. The last thing UT needs is Pearl popping off in the media during the season next year, even if he doesn't have a legitimate gripe. It will get attention and won't be good. Again, jmo
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I think UT has been very good to Pearl. He was paid an elite salary, he was allowed to stay this season, and he was hired at a major program when no one else wanted to give him the chance. He has done a very good job until the NCAA mess. I'm more concerned about the program than Pearl. If firing him with no settlement would put us in better standing with the NCAA, that's the path we should follow. Don't really feel that we owe him anything that he hasn't already received. However, I do understand your position and would hope it would be a cordial separation.
 
Disagree. Pewrl did wonders for this program and we should recognize that. We don't like that it's ending or the way it's ending, but his success has been unmistakeable. Im all for us making this amicable.
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I despise the guy, yet I agree. Also, you make yourself that much more appealing to potential hires by being amicable.
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I really think a deal has been worked out or at least MH and the UT admin has a pretty good idea what is going to come down from the AA otherwise Pearl would be gone. Possibility they could be waiting until after the season but I doubt it.

I just can't see MH laying his job and really his carreer on the line hoping the AA will not sit Pearl for a year or two. It will be September or October before the AA releases the final punishment and way to late in the game to find a quality coach, it would be the CLK disaster all over again and no way MH survives another one.
 
I'm amazed that people believe that UT will offer Pearl some severance for duties performed regardless of obligation and it not get ugly. The terms were clear for Fulmer and it was ugly as hell.

He'd be an idiot to try to contest anything if we offered him money. At that point, we'd just say, "shove it up your ass; we'll fire you and pay you nothing."
 
As long as the NCAA realizes he's leaving because Tennessee is making him, I'm okay with him 'resigning.'
 
Ah, another wall of pretentious prose to parse. Whee.

I pulled up your ancient turd about Cowher/Kiffin/Steele by going up to search, typing in your screen name, and "cowher." Boom, it came right up. If you call that "research," then I hate to imagine what your academic career was like.

I'm not sure what kind of imaginary line you're trying to draw with this stuff about "differentiating the information in the respective threads." You called your Nov 2008 thread "Riddle solved -- new coach(es) revealed." You were, as you've also been in this thread, hazy about whether this was a hypothesis or an actual prediction, but it was so laughable that it didn't matter. Anyone who thought it even a remote possibility that Cowher and Kiffin and Kevin Steele were all three coming to UT was clearly not somebody who ever needed to be listened to about UT sports.

While this current thread offers none of the same hilarity that Cowher To Tennessee did, you're still straddling the same line between hypothesis and actual prediction. "Purely hypothetical," you said in your OP -- but as the thread has gone on, you've gotten more and more strident about Pearl's demise being a done deal, coming immediately after the tournament, etc. Did you get more information, or was just that Larry and Hat posted in the thread indicating that they think it's a done deal? You said to Larry that you' heard it was somebody's job to turn down, which Larry said was news to him -- did the guy who thought Cowher might be coming two years ago somehow get better sources than Larry in the interim?

You want credibility? Earn it. Who's the next coach? When's it happening?

I went to a little no-name school you've never heard of. I'm certain that it pales in comparison to yours, as this debate has thus far shown.

Verce - I'll just ask this, and hopefully save us some time - do you really think that the Cowher thing was my attempt to pass along actual information, insider or otherwise? You might have also noticed that I never claimed any inside information in the Cowher thread, whatsoever (even when asked), if you need another indication of its intent. But, I am willing to concede the point that you either can't or won't do so.

As to this incident, all I can say is that I know what I know. I trust those who have told me, and would not have asserted otherwise, if I did not believe it to be both trustworthy and true. More information has been told to me since posting it, and which has only further increased my confidence as to what will occur. Undoubtedly, and as you would expect, this has been reflected in my subsequent posts.

However (and just as I have told several who have PM'd me about this) - I can easily admit that both Hat and LWS have introduced completely new things in the course of this thread that I had either not previously heard, or at least with enough clarity / confidence to post. In fact, if you'll look at my posts in this thread, I've used those guys to verify things I've heard - "chest-thumping" this does not seem to imply. But again, if you believe that such is the case, I concede the point.

I am uncertain as to how much credibility one would seek to earn via a message board, and am uncertain how valuable it would be, if provided. The day I think otherwise, you'll be the first to know, as I will want to use you as a reference on my application to Hobby Lobby (legacy hire?). I put the information out there for those who might wish to read it, and to welcome comments - constructive and critical ones, alike. I like the dialogue, but most enjoy the back and forth of a debate, and the more hotly and tightly contested, the better. But neither you nor anyone else should feel compelled to believe, agree or even read anything I say. I won't take it personally, either way. But if you do, feel free to comment as much or as little as you'd like - I don't take that personally, either.

I hope this answers your question, and addresses your originally intended argument.
 
I appreciate your posts and information. Every one is left to take it as they please. It appears from the new post about Hamilton that your inside information is completely accurate. Thanks for posting.
 
I think UT has been very good to Pearl. He was paid an elite salary, he was allowed to stay this season, and he was hired at a major program when no one else wanted to give him the chance. He has done a very good job until the NCAA mess. I'm more concerned about the program than Pearl. If firing him with no settlement would put us in better standing with the NCAA, that's the path we should follow. Don't really feel that we owe him anything that he hasn't already received. However, I do understand your position and would hope it would be a cordial separation.

Oh yeah, I agree completely that UT has been more than fait and don't owe him a thing. I argue that point with everyone that says UT owes it to him to let him keep his job. Pearl has been treated better than anyone in his situation could hope for or deserve. I guess what I mean is I am for whatever UT can do to get on with UT bball and get this mess behind us. Pearl should have to pay the $200k legal fees UT has amassed on his account. Guess UT will save that much if they lose a scholarship. The Hamilton interview today puzzles me. Why go so long with no additional coment then basically confirm on radio that he is gone 2 days before tourney? Is that not odd to anyone else? I overthink things so I wondered if thayt is some sort of public hint to potential coaches to express interest. I realize that is probably a foolish overreaction, just can't figure out the timing of MH making those comments.
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Oh yeah, I agree completely that UT has been more than fait and don't owe him a thing. I argue that point with everyone that says UT owes it to him to let him keep his job. Pearl has been treated better than anyone in his situation could hope for or deserve. I guess what I mean is I am for whatever UT can do to get on with UT bball and get this mess behind us. Pearl should have to pay the $200k legal fees UT has amassed on his account. Guess UT will save that much if they lose a scholarship. The Hamilton interview today puzzles me. Why go so long with no additional coment then basically confirm on radio that he is gone 2 days before tourney? Is that not odd to anyone else? I overthink things so I wondered if thayt is some sort of public hint to potential coaches to express interest. I realize that is probably a foolish overreaction, just can't figure out the timing of MH making those comments.
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The timing can't be happenstance.
 

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