Penn State scandal (merged)

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Prosecutors have already said that Joe Pa satisfied his legal duty by reporting it to the AD, and no further charges will be levied against Joe Pa. Everyone can agree that he should've reported to the police, but was under no legal obligation to do so.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Prosecutors have already said that Joe Pa satisfied his legal duty by reporting it to the AD, and no further charges will be levied against Joe Pa. Everyone can agree that he should've reported to the police, but was under no legal obligation to do so.
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His legal duty has absolutely nothing to do with his PSU chain of command. I for give a crap what the prosecutor said, it's a weak cop out. He should have flipped out.
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Vercingetorix said:
Read something online that claimed that it wasn't clear whether Paterno ever even knew about the 98 investigation. The senile old man defense is clearly coming.
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Can you imagine them trying to pass that crap off with a straight face?
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BigPapaVol said:
His legal duty has absolutely nothing to do with his PSU chain of command. I for give a crap what the prosecutor said, it's a weak cop out. He should have flipped out.
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Exactly. He reported it to the AD then never followed up on it and allowed the pervert back on campus to use their football facilities for use afterwards. Nothing admirable.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
According to the DA, currently, he has.
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No. The DA said he isn't prosecuting according some very loose interpretation and he's giving the benefit of the doubt to the guy. It's crap. If Paterno did what it appears, he washed his hands a la Pilate.
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I could link the statement, but I'm drinking, using my phone to post, and frankly, I'm a bit lazy after 5pm.

It's simply not worth the effort.
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TXA&M07 said:
I could link the statement, but I'm drinking, using my phone to post, and frankly, I'm a bit lazy after 5pm.

It's simply not worth the effort.
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I read the statement, but let's not pretend that the legal process has anything to do with truth, the law or legality.
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#336
We're in America, not Bosnia.

They'll act accordingly provided there are grounds. As of now, concerning Joe, there are none.

It's checkers not chess. I know you get this.

It sucks, but it's the way it is, as of now.

We'll see if he was negligent legally soon enough.
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TXA&M07 said:
We're in America, not Bosnia.

They'll act accordingly provided there are grounds. As of now, concerning Joe, there are none.

It's checkers not chess. I know you get this.

It sucks, but it's the way it is, as of now.

We'll see if he was negligent legally soon enough.
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I don't give a crap about the legal process. His actions in this were about protecting his pedo friend rather than protecting the kids that the guy ruined.

He can maintain his ignorance all day long, but he knew or is stupid as hell.
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Let's lock up stupid people. You start in the Pub, I'll go the recruiting forum, meetcha back in Motorsports in half an hour.

Ready? Go.
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TXA&M07 said:
Let's lock up stupid people. You start in the Pub, I'll go the recruiting forum, meetcha back in Motorsports in half an hour.

Ready? Go.
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I didn't say lock him up. I said the prosecutor is simply avoiding the issue by exonerating him. The press is handing out a pass based upon his comments. Paterno's handling of this is just as reprehensible as any of the others involved, save the pedo himself.
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The press is chomping at the bit to shred him. Jim Rome already did. Jermey Schapp is on site as a corospondant. Trust me, if he is implicated any further and they decide to prosecute him for negligence, the media will defame that old man quicker than a cat can lick his ass.

As of now, everyone on both sides are releasing appropriate statements via attorneys.
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What was the lead on SC today? The "Superbowl" between Bama and LSU? The NFL upset between NYG and New England?

Nope, it was PSU. They can't wait.
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He won't be prosecuted, but the court of public opinion should be absolutely brutal. Everyone with even remote knowledge of Sandusky's actions should be vilified.
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BigPapaVol said:
He won't be prosecuted, but the court of public opinion should be absolutely brutal. Everyone with even remote knowledge of Sandusky's actions should be vilified.
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I've agreed to this from the start. You're preaching to the choir.
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MemphisCanes said:
Prosecutors have already said that Joe Pa satisfied his legal duty by reporting it to the AD, and no further charges will be levied against Joe Pa. Everyone can agree that he should've reported to the police, but was under no legal obligation to do so.
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True. He was under no further legal duty. However, he is a head coach of a major football program that hosts numerous youth sporting event camps. He had a moral and ethical duty.

The head of the Pennsylvania State Police agrees.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBC_PENN_STATE_ABUSE?SITE=WWMTTV&SECTION=SPORTS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-11-07-15-36-13

The Pennsylvania state police commissioner said Paterno fulfilled his legal requirement when he relayed to university administrators that a graduate assistant had seen former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky attacking a young boy in the team's locker room shower in 2002. But the commissioner also questioned whether Paterno had a moral responsibility to do more.

State police Commissioner Frank Noonan said that although Paterno may have met his legal requirement to report suspected abuse by Sandusky, "somebody has to question about what I would consider the moral requirements for a human being that knows of sexual things that are taking place with a child."
He added: "I think you have the moral responsibility, anyone. Not whether you're a football coach or a university president or the guy sweeping the building. I think you have a moral responsibility to call us."
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BigPapaVol said:
He won't be prosecuted, but the court of public opinion should be absolutely brutal. Everyone with even remote knowledge of Sandusky's actions should be vilified.
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I agree. As an alum of Penn State, I am infuriated, humiliated, angry, disappointed, and shocked. As an Alum I am completely offended tha the reputation of the football program was seeming more paramount than the child victims and the reputation of the University as an academic and research institution. Just blows my mind.

I want to see Paterno and President Graham Spanier immediately step down. That is they very least they can do.

Paterno may have fulfilled a legal obligation, but he failed in moral and ethical leadership, period.
 
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Here is how the Penn State Students feel. This white boards was on campus today.
 
#348
#348
I've read through all this and agree on Paterno stepping down, and lean toward him being prosecuted as well. As I've thought about it today, as a University employee Paterno has the same expectation to report these type of charges to the police as any other administrator or teacher...

I feel really bad for the victims and their families...
 
#349
#349
I will report the Pennsylvania statute because there seems to still b confusion over Paterno's reporting requirement.

(c) Staff members of institutions, etc.--Whenever a person is required to report under subsection (b) in the capacity as a member of the staff of a medical or other public or private institution, school, facility or agency, that person shall immediately notify the person in charge of the institution, school, facility or agency or the designated agent of the person in charge. Upon notification, the person in charge or the designated agent, if any, shall assume the responsibility and have the legal obligation to report or cause a report to be made in accordance with section 6313. This chapter does not require more than one report from any such institution, school, facility or agency.
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Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation. Just not his moral and ethical obligation.
 
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PaVolsFan said:
I will report the Pennsylvania statute because there seems to still b confusion over Paterno's reporting requirement.

Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation. Just not his moral and ethical obligation.
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This isn't about having a reasonable belief that a child abuse occurred. A member of the staff saw with his own eyes a boy being raped. That means Joe Paterno had knowledge of a felony and didn't report it. Not that he just had a reasonable belief.
 
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