Penn State scandal (merged)

Question for you guys: Do you know if FBI is involved or is this a matter just for local police. Reason is I ask is, it would be good to know people with no ties to PSU or people involved are investigating. I am usually not a conspiracy guy, but there's too much involved here. I feel like I'm watching one of those movies where the good guys turn out to be in on the crimes the entire time and you don't know who to trust. I just hope this investigation is led by people who want to find the truth.
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Yes. One or more federal agencies are involved.
 
Question for you guys: Do you know if FBI is involved or is this a matter just for local police. Reason is I ask is, it would be good to know people with no ties to PSU or people involved are investigating. I am usually not a conspiracy guy, but there's too much involved here. I feel like I'm watching one of those movies where the good guys turn out to be in on the crimes the entire time and you don't know who to trust. I just hope this investigation is led by people who want to find the truth.
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There was a link on Drudge yesterday that said a Federal Investigation is being initiated.
 
Question for you guys: Do you know if FBI is involved or is this a matter just for local police. Reason is I ask is, it would be good to know people with no ties to PSU or people involved are investigating. I am usually not a conspiracy guy, but there's too much involved here. I feel like I'm watching one of those movies where the good guys turn out to be in on the crimes the entire time and you don't know who to trust. I just hope this investigation is led by people who want to find the truth.
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GWN will know, but dont believe they will unless it involves child porn
 
Are you saying he could have brought PSU to its knees buy breaking the conspiracy and going public?

I'm saying that if he had all the details, which I'm not convinced he had, that certainly would have meant doom.

Paterno may have known about the conspiracy, he may have preferred to completely stay out of it. Who knows? How much he knows or didnt know we dont have a clue, but if he had the details of WHY Sandusky was given a package in exchange for something, or why the DA and the cops walked away from this whole thing in 99, that certainly would have been explosive if he had elected to go public with it, but I'm guessing if he knew all this crap, which I dont believe he did, then he would have opted to protect the school.
 
Paterno has lawyered up. His attorney? A man named J. Sedgwick Sollers, whose area of expertise is in criminal defense.

Meanwhile, Penn State is losing sponsors. Sherwin-Williams has withdrawn sponsorship of PSU football press conferences and Nike is not saying word one about the future of their partnership with the Nittany Lions. Cars.com has removed sponsorship of ESPN games involving Penn State. And if the rumors of a pedophile ring involving Sandusky and PSU/Second Mile boosters prove to be true, then they will lose even more.

This is what happens when a head coach and a university protect a sexual predator and show no interest whatsoever in protecting the community and his victims. JoePa might as well have been in those settings with Sandusky. Sandusky was the monster. But Paterno enabled the monster to survive and thrive within the sanctuary of the Penn State campus and the Lasch Building.


Oh, they are just overreacting and playing god. (sarcasm button hit)
 
If half the rumors floating around are substantiated, the feds will be running a train on Sandusky and Second Mile.

I say in a month, this situation will be much clearer. As it currently stands, there exists the Grand Jury Report, the statement from the Attorney General, and then heaps of speculation.

Facts will be easier to identify and individuate in a month or two.
 
Question for you guys: Do you know if FBI is involved or is this a matter just for local police. Reason is I ask is, it would be good to know people with no ties to PSU or people involved are investigating. I am usually not a conspiracy guy, but there's too much involved here. I feel like I'm watching one of those movies where the good guys turn out to be in on the crimes the entire time and you don't know who to trust. I just hope this investigation is led by people who want to find the truth.
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You can rest assured this has become a federal investigation.
 
GWN will know, but dont believe they will unless it involves child porn

If he took kids, victims, out of state doesn't constitute as trafficking or porn? I think law touched on this yesterday. Also, if 2nd mile is covering it up, and they are receiving federal money, then the fed will get more involved.
 
Care to cite one instance so I can prove you wrong? Be my guest.

You haven't been waffling. You just can't grasp that paternos "hand wringing" and distancing himself from knowledge of child raping is the freaking problem. You should be embarrassed that you can't comprehend something so basic.
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I say in a month, this situation will be much clearer. As it currently stands, there exists the Grand Jury Report, the statement from the Attorney General, and then heaps of speculation.

Facts will be easier to identify and individuate in a month or two.

Definitely. Although IMO the FBI has probably been aware of this for some time and has likely been building a case.

Better make sure you follow up on it though or you are not fulfilling your moral obligation.
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Moral or ethical?
 
I say in a month, this situation will be much clearer. As it currently stands, there exists the Grand Jury Report, the statement from the Attorney General, and then heaps of speculation.

Facts will be easier to identify and individuate in a month or two.


Wow. We actually agree on something. But, the speculation and rumors I think, unfortunately, will be very bad and true.
 
I'm saying that if he had all the details, which I'm not convinced he had, that certainly would have meant doom.

Paterno may have known about the conspiracy, he may have preferred to completely stay out of it. Who knows? How much he knows or didnt know we dont have a clue, but if he had the details of WHY Sandusky was given a package in exchange for something, or why the DA and the cops walked away from this whole thing in 99, that certainly would have been explosive if he had elected to go public with it, but I'm guessing if he knew all this crap, which I dont believe he did, then he would have opted to protect the school.

There is more to this than JP everybody knows this. But if he opted for silence given what this is about to protect the school A. It didn't work. B. PSU not being exposed is not worth Sandusky roaming PSU or anywhere else.

Why do you thing the board fired JP?
 
Are you saying pictures or videos of child porn is more important to the federal authorities than actual child rape?

That is not at all what he is saying. Child abuse, sexual assault, and the like is not a federal offense unless it involves the crossing of state lines, which in Sandusky's case, it very well might. Most times, though, it is a state charge. Child porn more quickly becomes a federal charge because it is often transmitted via the internet, which triggers interstate commerce.
 
You haven't been waffling. You just can't grasp that paternos "hand wringing" and distancing himself from knowledge of child raping is the freaking problem. You should be embarrassed that you can't comprehend something so basic.
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Thank you.

Now this... "You just can't grasp that paternos "hand wringing" and distancing himself from knowledge of child raping is the freaking problem." Oh, is that THE problem? lol

That might be one of the problems with this case, but its not THEE problem. Get a grip.
 

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