Penn State scandal (merged)

#4,926
#4,926
Please kill it. All of it. Death Penalty please. Penn State should die, as a whole. How shameful. How terribly disgusting. To cover up a grown man raping and sodomizing a little boy is the most horrific act, and to do this, over and over, and over many many years, is so very sickening. To put your fingers up to your lips and say "sssssshhhhhh", with a wink, is the death penalty. Whether it be within the NCAA rules as a violation or not. CHANGE THE DAMN RULES now, just to punish Penn State.
 
#4,927
#4,927
People around here are saying that the current students shouldn't be punished for the misdeeds of former coaches and administrators. They want Curley and crew punished but also want it all to go away so they can reclaim happy valley.

They continue to be in denial. I think once the stories of all the cover ups come to light that they will not want to live on the old image any longer. Over the years, JoePa covered up assaults, robberies, rapes and of course, serial child molestation. The stories of recruiting violations would rival Bear Bryant, SMU and Miami--but they've never been proven. It is also possible that facts surrounding the murdered Center County DA may have gone to the grave with Paterno.

With Philadelphia and Pittsburg becoming two of the larger crap holes in the country, Penn State was really the only thing left to feel good about in Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, that is about to be taken away as well.
 
#4,929
#4,929
This warrants jail time for those involved in a cover-up, not the Death Penalty for the program. I don't care about the fate of the current athletes at Penn State (after all, the talented amongst them will still be fine), but it's not the NCAA's place to destroy a school for actions not intrinsically linked to sports. In any event, what sport would the NCAA punish? Joe Paterno's culpability is still up for discussion and who knows the extent to which he could have conceivably participated in a cover-up; is the NCAA supposed to just shut down the entire athletics department because of the administration's inaction? Nonsense.
 
#4,933
#4,933
bamawriter said:
Not to change subjects, but what recruiting violations was Bryant ever accused of, charged with, or sanctioned for?
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From Sports Illustrated Vault:
In his later years Bryant admitted that as a driven young coach, he would have done almost anything to win. He built his Kentucky teams in the late '40s and early '50s partly by paying players to come in from Ohio and Pennsylvania. At Texas A&M, which he took from 1-9 in 1954 to the Cotton Bowl three years later, he was punished by the NCAA for recruiting violations. The young Bryant was so demanding of his players that by today's standards, he would be regarded as abusive. "I don't know how small small is," says former LSU coach Charlie McClendon, who played for Bryant at Kentucky, "but he could make you feel that way."

He left Kentucky in 1954 to accept the head coaching position at Texas A&M University. There he had his only losing season. After four years, however, his record stood at 25 wins, 14 losses, and 2 ties. In 1954 his team won the Southwest Conference title. Texas A&M won the conference title again in 1956, but was barred from participating in the Cotton Bowl because of recruiting violations. In 1957 the Aggies lost to Tennessee in the Gator Bowl, but Bryant had coached his first Heisman Trophy winner, John David Crow.

Bear Bryant was a great teacher, Danny Ford, Charlie Pell, Jackie Sherrill.

Research and Google can be your friend. Some fairy tales are just not true.
 
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#4,936
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orangesparkles said:
This warrants jail time for those involved in a cover-up, not the Death Penalty for the program. I don't care about the fate of the current athletes at Penn State (after all, the talented amongst them will still be fine), but it's not the NCAA's place to destroy a school for actions not intrinsically linked to sports. In any event, what sport would the NCAA punish? Joe Paterno's culpability is still up for discussion and who knows the extent to which he could have conceivably participated in a cover-up; is the NCAA supposed to just shut down the entire athletics department because of the administration's inaction? Nonsense.
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Agree with this post.



vol_in_il said:
of course the President and AD are going to pin as much as possible on Paternno, he's dead
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Of course. Makes sense
 
#4,937
#4,937
Sandusky was aquitted on the shower charge that started the entire thing?

Love the Paterno family using the "out of context" card. What a bunch of entitled northern pricks!
 
#4,939
#4,939
One for the record books I guess:

Judge dismisses 'frivolous' lawsuit against Jerry Sandusky by man who's filed thousands of lawsuits | PennLive.com


Judge dismisses 'frivolous' lawsuit against Jerry Sandusky by man who's filed thousands of lawsuits
Published: Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 10:44 AM Updated: Tuesday, July 10, 2012, 11:13 AM
By The Associated Press
MADISON, Wis. — A federal lawsuit filed by a man alleging that former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky sexually abused him during a Wisconsin Badgers home football game in 2002 has been dismissed by a judge who called the allegations frivolous and malicious.

Jerry Sandusky
U.S. District Judge William Conley says in the order dated Friday that the allegations appear to come from Jonathan Lee Riches, who the judge says has “vexed the court system with thousands of frivolous lawsuits before his recent release from federal prison.”
The Wisconsin lawsuit was filed by someone claiming to be Jonathan Bollinger, cousin of former Badgers quarterback Brooks Bollinger.
Conley ordered Riches to show by the end of the month why he should not be held in contempt of court.
The Detroit News says Riches sued the Guinness Book of World Records three years ago after learning publishers planned on dubbing him the world's most litigious person. He has filed approximately 3,600 lawsuits in federal courts nationwide.
Sandusky was convicted last month of molesting 10 boys he'd met through his children's charity.
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#4,940
#4,940
The former PSU President lawyers just file a motion, that he had never been told in his 16 years as the University of President of any Sandusky abuse allegations
 
#4,942
#4,942
orangesparkles said:
This warrants jail time for those involved in a cover-up, not the Death Penalty for the program. I don't care about the fate of the current athletes at Penn State (after all, the talented amongst them will still be fine), but it's not the NCAA's place to destroy a school for actions not intrinsically linked to sports. In any event, what sport would the NCAA punish? Joe Paterno's culpability is still up for discussion and who knows the extent to which he could have conceivably participated in a cover-up; is the NCAA supposed to just shut down the entire athletics department because of the administration's inaction? Nonsense.
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I agree to a point. I truly believe that once all of those responsible that allowed this to go on are prosecuted, it's up to Penn State themselves to cleanse their name. If JoePa is found to have covered up Sandusky's actions I believe the NCAA has a morals clause that they could use against the entire university, not just the FB program- The institution’s responsibility for the conduct of its intercollegiate athletics
program includes responsibility for the actions of its staff members and for the actions of any other individual
or organization engaged in activities promoting the athletics interests of the institution.

Personally, I would rather Penn State do what they NEED to do to cleanse themselves. I would hope the NCAA understands that this goes beyond athletics and allows Penn State to do the right thing going forward.
 
#4,945
#4,945
Karl Rominger is a local lawyer and part time radio personality who was on Sandusky's defense team. He gave an exclusive interview that was broadcast on local radio. I think it is interesting to hear Rominger's take on how he could defend a guy like Sandusky.

WA exclusive - WHP 580
 
#4,950
#4,950
These are the kind of things that happen when your AD is a puppet. The irony is that the national media and the Fulmer felchers always pointed to Paterno's continued employment as the gold standard for how to treat an aging coach.
 
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