Penn State scandal (merged)

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Vols520 said:
honestly to cops everything is black and white. You're either a criminal or a cop saving the world and putting scumbags behind bars.

You're either a harborer of serial molesters or the exact opposite. No way you could be fooled by a respected colleague and friend.
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That might be a valid point if there hadn't been allegations in '98 before the ones in 2002. Sandusky was just fortunate that he could pay off the janitor.
 
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ItsDarwinism said:
I said what? No I didnt, another case of you idgits employing selective remembering.

I've read the Grand Jury report, have you? There's nothing in that report that implicates Paterno of anything, and I have also read the law, and of course Paterno could have done more, but he is in compliance with the law.

Now, since you guys are so smart. Please tell me what you know about the conversations between Curley, Paterno, and the university president. Am I going to have to wait on that long, because I'm tired of this stupid argument and all the know it alls around here that think they know everything about this case, even though there is much that hasn't been released to the press.

Now I'm just guessing, but I believe that meeting with Curley at Paterno's house went something like this...."Thank you Joe, you did the right thing. Dont worry about a thing, WE'LL take care of it."

You do realize the man was 74 years old at the time, was not a school administrator, and fulfilled his obligation to report the shower incident up the channel. You guys are just speculating about what he knew and when he knew it and how much he knew and THAT is all just purely guesswork. And yes, the man does deserve the benefit of the doubt until the time when evidence suggests otherwise. Right now there is none. Sorry. lol
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Common sense implicates Paterno.... In compliance of the law if you believe that the grad asst somehow decided to only descirbe what he saw to Paterno as horse play and disturbing, and not anal rape. Which anybody with any common sense would not believe.
 
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SteveninTenn said:
Sandusky was caught by a janitor giving oral sex to a young boy in a hallway after hours and there was an incident in 2000So there were other events besides '98 and other people who had witnessed Sandusky before 2002. YOU CANT TELL ME JOE DIDNT HEAR ABOUT EVERYTHING ON THAT CAMPUS.There might have even been rumors and incidents we dont even know about yet that Paterno knew about. Paterno should have called the police and a press conf. and say his former coach was going to answer for his pedophilia.He'd been a hero. Now almost 10 years later he's leaving in disgrace all because he didnt call or do enough.
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Lol.
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"Well, that's really awful about those kids being molested on campus here, but I reported it to the AD so that should take care of that. Back to football practice."

I can't possibly excuse that kind of mentality.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Well, yes. That's exactly what he assumed. It was being taken care of.
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Foolishly I have commented on this like a lot of other people, without knowing the whole story, I actually did go and read his testimony. There is no explanation other than he didn't care.
 
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SteveninTenn said:
Sandusky was caught by a janitor giving oral sex to a young boy in a hallway after hours and there was an incident in 2000.So there were other events besides '98 and other people who had witnessed Sandusky before 2002. YOU CANT TELL ME JOE DIDNT HEAR ABOUT EVERYTHING ON THAT CAMPUS.There might have even been rumors and incidents we dont even know about yet that Paterno knew about. Paterno should have called the police and a press conf. and say his former coach was going to answer for his pedophilia.He'd been a hero. Now almost 10 years later he's leaving in disgrace all because he didnt call or do enough.
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I understand now; Paterno is both omnipresent and omniscient.
 
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ItsDarwinism said:
I said what? No I didnt, another case of you idgits employing selective remembering.

I've read the Grand Jury report, have you? There's nothing in that report that implicates Paterno of anything, and I have also read the law, and of course Paterno could have done more, but he is in compliance with the law.

Now, since you guys are so smart. Please tell me what you know about the conversations between Curley, Paterno, and the university president. Am I going to have to wait on that long, because I'm tired of this stupid argument and all the know it alls around here that think they know everything about this case, even though there is much that hasn't been released to the press.

Now I'm just guessing, but I believe that meeting with Curley at Paterno's house went something like this...."Thank you Joe, you did the right thing. Dont worry about a thing, WE'LL take care of it."

You do realize the man was 74 years old at the time, was not a school administrator, and fulfilled his obligation to report the shower incident up the channel. You guys are just speculating about what he knew and when he knew it and how much he knew and THAT is all just purely guesswork. And yes, the man does deserve the benefit of the doubt until the time when evidence suggests otherwise. Right now there is none. Sorry. lol
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My question would be why did they meet at the house? If Jo Pa was a clueless old man, then why not just make a phone call on Saturday? No, he knew it was a bad deal and they worked up a plan to cover the universities reputation. The GA got a nice job, the rapist kept his office and no one was the wiser. Unfortunately, Sandusky didn't stop and found a pool of potential victims at a localhigh-school and continued his attacks for another 6 years. Had Jo Pa, McCreery, Curly (or the janitor in 2000) or anyone else called the police in March 2002, who knows how many crimes could have been prevented.
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LawVol13 said:
What would you think of yourself if you had a report that someone was ass raping kids in your office, and then you simply reported it to a superior who did nothing while, in the mean time, the alleged raper continues to hang around you at the office for the next decade racking up countless more victims and you never say another word?
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The amazing thing is that nothing changed. It's hard to imagine a more explosive charge: one coach accuses another coach of raping a kid in the locker room. The head coach and AD are involved. The school president hears about it. And yet.....nothing changes. The accuser stays with the program and gets promoted. The accused keeps hanging around the program like nothing happened. Everyone carries on like it never happened. Protect the shield.
 
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LawVol13 said:
He's pretty sad, knucklehead. If I hadn't already addressed those points about a million times, I'd do it again. But, at least he showed us how ignorant me and a few others are about how the feds operate.
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Yea he definitely pointed out who the ignorant one is.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The amazing thing is that nothing changed. It's hard to imagine a more explosive charge: one coach accuses another coach of raping a kid in the locker room. The head coach and AD are involved. The school president hears about it. And yet.....nothing changes. The accuser stays with the program and gets promoted. The accused keeps hanging around the program like nothing happened. Everyone carries on like it never happened. Protect the shield.
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That's what it was all about.
 
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ccVOLSdhf said:
Common sense implicates Paterno.... In compliance of the law if you believe that the grad asst somehow decided to only descirbe what he saw to Paterno as horse play and disturbing, and not anal rape. Which anybody with any common sense would not believe.
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Implicates him of what? Curley is the one who used the term "horseplay". not Paterno. You need to read the Grand Jury report, I dont think you're quite up to speed.

BTW, just reported PSU president Spanier has resigned (was fired).
 
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Vols520 said:
honestly to cops everything is black and white. You're either a criminal or a cop saving the world and putting scumbags behind bars.

You're either a harborer of serial molesters or the exact opposite. No way you could be fooled by a respected colleague and friend.
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Have you ever had to talk to a small child about being abused?

Have you had to sit in on an interview when they describe what the sick SOBs do to them?

How they cried over and over for them to stop

How they think its their fault because this was done to them

How they wish they could stop having nightmares about it

Why they never told anyone because the SOB told them that they would kill their parents, so they keep quite to protect them

When you get home at night, you hug and kiss your kids and thank God that they are safe and nothing has happened to them.

**** em and anyone that sits by and watches it happen and does nothing to help them

I dont have a ****ing bit of sympathy for them
 
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Vercingetorix said:
The amazing thing is that nothing changed. It's hard to imagine a more explosive charge: one coach accuses another coach of raping a kid in the locker room. The head coach and AD are involved. The school president hears about it. And yet.....nothing changes. The accuser stays with the program and gets promoted. The accused keeps hanging around the program like nothing happened. Everyone carries on like it never happened. Protect the shield.
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It had already happened in 94 and 98 also. What more did they need, photos?
 
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LawVol13 said:
No, he's a self-serving, egotistical jerk whose failure to follow up on his buddy's ass raping allegations caused tons more kids to be victimized. A truly great man.
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His actions did not cause any kids to be victimized.

Keep up the good work, Counselor.
 
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