Penn State scandal (merged)

[shyster]

What I don't understand that if Joe thought the GA was lying and the Administration never punished/reported Sandusky...why wasn't the GA punished for making a false allegation? I don't know about you but if someone at my job gets accused of something like that by another employee...SOMEONE is getting fired.

This is what gets me too. Not only did the GA not get fired, he was later promoted to assistant coach. And what about informing the children's charity about a problem with Sandusky? Joe Pa just let him go ahead with his "charity work"? Unforgivable is what it is. Paterno has no excuses.

 

[LawVol13]

To your last point, I think those people were the president, AD and the other high ranking official

Joe Pa's right in the middle of it. Do you think he didn't see the guy working out in the team weight room for the last 10 years after this? Of course he did, and he did nothing.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Well they did bam him from bringing kids on campus, good enough.
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"Come on, Jerry, at least have the decency to rape those kids somewhere else, okay?"
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[milohimself]

Very cool. You seem to be a more defense minded person as well, nothing wrong with that. I'm more of a pro-prosecution minded person, as you can tell. Anyway, good discussion. :hi:

I knew you had a little Nancy Grace in you. Messing.

 

[CountVolcula]

I vehemently disagree.

You are correct in your stance.

How many times do we have to say that Joe Pa, when he found out that nothing was going to be done, had the moral obligation to make sure that Sandusky was reported to the police? Its just not that friggin difficult to comprehend

I am just confused that people cant comprehend that he should have acted differently than he did

 

[ccVOLSdhf]

Sorry if it wasn't clearer.
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Yeah rereading it was pretty clear. It's just all the Joepa supporters that are using words like that allaged and legal process. Legal obligation it's disgusting.

 

[LawVol13]

I knew you had a little Nancy Grace in you. Messing.

Haha. Definitely not that far, my friend. By the way, my apologies if I said anything offensive to you earlier today. It's a touchy subject for everyone. :hi:

 

[Vols520]

You are correct in your stance.

How many times do we have to say that Joe Pa, when he found out that nothing was going to be done, had the moral obligation to make sure that Sandusky was reported to the police? Its just not that friggin difficult to comprehend

I am just confused that people cant comprehend that he should have acted differently than he did

Because you are looking at the situation with the benefit of knowing the outcome. Paterno told people the very next day. He didn't wait a week, didn't wait a month, the next day. People he trusted to do the right thing. THey failed, not Paterno.

 

[YorkVol]

You are correct in your stance.

How many times do we have to say that Joe Pa, when he found out that nothing was going to be done, had the moral obligation to make sure that Sandusky was reported to the police? Its just not that friggin difficult to comprehend

I am just confused that people cant comprehend that he should have acted differently than he did

All the local and state pundits agree with you.
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[GreatWhiteNorth]

The amount of people who were aware of what was going on (at least to some degree) and did absolutely nothing about it is stunning. Especially those with eyewitness accounts of the abuse taking place. I mean, the janitor failed to report it at all?!?! WTH is wrong with people.

 

[LawVol13]

"Come on, Jerry, at least have the decency to rape those kids somewhere else, okay?"
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That's essentially exactly what they told him.

 

[Vols520]

The amount of people who were aware of what was going on (at least to some degree) and did absolutely nothing about it is stunning. Especially those with eyewitness accounts of the abuse taking place. I mean, the janitor failed to report it at all?!?! WTH is wrong with people.

That's inexcusable.

 

[Vercingetorix]

I am just confused that people cant comprehend that he should have acted differently than he did

I think some people are giving him the benefit of the doubt because they assume that he's a clueless old man who had no real idea what was going on.

 

[NickZ4UT]

Edit: I was unaware that the grand jury testimony had been released and upon reviewing it I am retracting my previous statement. Given what information is currently available it's hard not to view Paterno as guilty as anyone else in this case. Sad that someone like him would have ended up as morally bankrupt as so many others in college football and beyond.

 

[ccVOLSdhf]

I wonder if they won't let him have this weekend, and then its over.

IMO he shouldn't have anything, but a pink slip!

 

[bamacheats]

solid input. go eat another twinkie.

:crazy:
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[Vols520]

I think some people are giving him the benefit of the doubt because they assume that he's a clueless old man who had no real idea what was going on.

honestly to cops everything is black and white. You're either a criminal or a cop saving the world and putting scumbags behind bars.

You're either a harborer of serial molesters or the exact opposite. No way you could be fooled by a respected colleague and friend.

 

[YorkVol]

I think it's downright awful that there are so many people eager to jump on to the moral high ground with this story. He did exactly what he was supposed to do and yet somehow he's the bad guy? If anyone should be berated for their inaction it should be the AD, as far as I'm concerned Paterno was alerted to the issue (albeit the details of the incident were not given to him) and he did what any responsible person in his position should do, notify their superior. This is the grey area, people are harping on him for not following up with the AD or reporting the incident to the police, well we don't know what he knew, maybe he didn't know a child was involved, perhaps he wasn't told it was a sexual assault that had taken place, all I'm saying is, while there are things about this that aren't right maybe we should save judgment for when we know the whole story.

I'm not sure you understand how influential Jo Pa is around here.
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[Cartervol]

He had a wife and 6 adopted kids. Wonder what she thinks about all of this? Has she came out and said anything? She had to know. How long until those kids come forward too?

 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I think some people are giving him the benefit of the doubt because they assume that he's a clueless old man who had no real idea what was going on.

Which is directly refuted by the grand jury testimony.

 

[Vols520]

He had a wife and 6 adopted kids. Wonder what she thinks about all of this? Has she came out and said anything? She had to know. How long until those kids come forward too?

I am sure it's been pretty awkard in that house.

 

[ItsDarwinism]

maybe not, but your silliness about being one of the few using reason here was absurd. Plenty people have read the release from the grand jury and it's stretches far beyond the bounds of reason to give anyone involved the benefit of the doubt.

I said what? No I didnt, another case of you idgits employing selective remembering.

I've read the Grand Jury report, have you? There's nothing in that report that implicates Paterno of anything, and I have also read the law, and of course Paterno could have done more, but he is in compliance with the law.

Now, since you guys are so smart. Please tell me what you know about the conversations between Curley, Paterno, and the university president. Am I going to have to wait on that long, because I'm tired of this stupid argument and all the know it alls around here that think they know everything about this case, even though there is much that hasn't been released to the press.

Now I'm just guessing, but I believe that meeting with Curley at Paterno's house went something like this...."Thank you Joe, you did the right thing. Dont worry about a thing, WE'LL take care of it."

You do realize the man was 74 years old at the time, was not a school administrator, and fulfilled his obligation to report the shower incident up the channel. You guys are just speculating about what he knew and when he knew it and how much he knew and THAT is all just purely guesswork. And yes, the man does deserve the benefit of the doubt until the time when evidence suggests otherwise. Right now there is none. Sorry. lol

 

[knucklehead_vol]

Isn't that the truth. We were all ready to hang milohimself earlier.

Yea, he said my grammer sucked, but he was right. I was so mad i couldn't type. But he's a good guy, unlike that moron that was on here.

 

[Vols520]

:crazy:
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no have another

 

[YorkVol]

He had a wife and 6 adopted kids. Wonder what she thinks about all of this? Has she came out and said anything? She had to know. How long until those kids come forward too?

Someone missed a clue during their home study.
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