Police shooting black man in the back ... again (Kenosha, WI)

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PointGuard said:
Yeah nobody cares blacks keep getting shot in the back if it was “your” king just going back to Rodney King circa late 1980’s what would you do?
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nobody cares when CRIMINALS get shot during CRIMES is more accurate... Race has nothing to do with it
 
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PointGuard said:
They’re not acting they are reacting to cops not acting like adults. How long before you reacted to me if I treated you like blacks are treated. What’s your solution to this mess?
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What did the police do in this situation to "not treat him like an adult"?
 
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lawgator1 said:
You admit you don't know what they perceived, but then you say that their actions were unreasonable.

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That is not what I said at all. I'm questioning as to whether the perception of the threat was reasonable enough to warrant lethal force.
 
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volbeast33 said:
We can argue that they could have handled it differently before he got to the car but once he reached inside.... he is a really big threat.... cops are suppose to keep shooting like they did
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I can agree with all this...I still question him reaching into the car warranting being shot in the back, but ok, sure.

However, as far as the bolded, according to our resident entitled know-it-all, the bolded isn't even up for argument, or if it is, hindsight is 20/20 and the suspect deserved it anyway and all that stuff.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You literally have no evidence. We do know a white cop shot a black guy in the back 7 times
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lol you are clueless, and sadly very race driven from your posts. You need a Snickers

The evidence of criminal acts committed by this felon are ALL on the videos, so you can't argue he didnt commit them.. Just like the guy in Atlanta with the stolen taser.

You want to see racism that doesn't exist to cover up for criminal's actions...
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
lol you are clueless, and sadly very race driven from your posts. You need a Snickers

The evidence of criminal acts committed by this felon are ALL on the videos, so you can't argue he didnt commit them.. Just like the guy in Atlanta with the stolen taser.

You want to see racism that doesn't exist to cover up for criminal's actions...
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Talking about the rednecks chasing the guy on foot while they were in trucks.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
lol you are clueless, and sadly very race driven from your posts. You need a Snickers

The evidence of criminal acts committed by this felon are ALL on the videos, so you can't argue he didnt commit them.. Just like the guy in Atlanta with the stolen taser.

You want to see racism that doesn't exist to cover up for criminal's actions...
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I've seen a video of guy struggling with cops. I have zero idea of whether cops were justified. Have I missed a video?
 
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I just saw the video from the passenger side of the car where he fights off the officers and gets up. What options were left to the police at that point assuming they had already used what non lethal weapons they had? If they would have let him go would they/the dept be liable should he have hurt his kids or someone else?
 
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hog88 said:
I just saw the video from the passenger side of the car where he fights off the officers and gets up. What options were left to the police at that point assuming they had already used what non lethal weapons they had? If they would have let him go would they/the dept be liable should he have hurt his kids or someone else?
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How many officers were on the scene to subdue him? It looks like maybe 4?
 
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PointGuard said:
They’re not acting they are reacting to cops not acting like adults. How long before you reacted to me if I treated you like blacks are treated. What’s your solution to this mess?
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Here’s what I feel needs to change:

Look at laws that need to be changed such as no knock warrants for example

Go over police protocol and make it uniformed across the nation.... every technique used and training specified

Public address messages on tv showing how to interact with cops.....

Laws changed that have gotten black fathers out the homes and minorities relying on government welfare

The more integrated we could be the better we would end up being if at all possible.... cops and minorities are going to continue to have issues as long as Some of these minority communities stay so violent.

Quit allowing the police to police themselves.....

Change laws that hurt non-violent offenders for life.

Have sentencing be more regulated and not a judges call.... some guy should not be given a lesser sentence due to color of their skin or wealth
 
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rjd970 said:
OK - lets do that.

What was KNOWN at the moment the shots were fired? The only thing that was known was he was getting in his car. Anything about a weapon or otherwise at that moment is speculation. My issue is "whether they reasonably perceived a threat" from him. I'm sure they did perceive a threat. Was that a "reasonable" perception? I don't think it was reasonable enough to shoot him in the back 7 times.

Now, admittedly, I'm not a lawyer or a cop, so what do I know. However, I don't think it is unreasonable to conclude that at the end of the day an unarmed man being shot 7 times in the back means something went awry from both sides. There is culpability from both sides and both have some accountability here.
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The bold is key.
Yes, its a known that he was attempting to get in his car. Why, is not clear today nor was it clear at the time.
Was he ready to just get away after a physical altercation which included the cops trying to detain him and according to witnesses and his lawyer tried to taze him. Or was he going for a weapon. At that point Blake is forcing the cop to make an assumption, one that could put the cop or others in danger.

From the video's and witness reports they didn't just open fire at the first sign of resistance, and while I think they should have made another attempt to prevent him from getting to the car, everything revolves around the fact that he wasn't going to be shot on the other side of the car if he didn't want to be.
 
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Y9 Vol said:
Circle back around to my answer when you are ready to "act like an adult".
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Nah you just didn’t like the realistic answer I gave you. Apparently It’s OK for cops to continue to shoot unarmed blacks in the back. Those receiving the bullets or knees on the neck should be grateful?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Talking about the rednecks chasing the guy on foot while they were in trucks.
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The one where i said that they were stupid and shouldn't have done that AND that Arbery was wrong for trespassing and the other things?

I believe my post on it was that it would be interesting to see what the jury said about the case and that if the son was found to have "illegally detained" Arbery they would be in trouble, but if not then Arbery would be considered the aggressor due to his moronic actions as well?

THIS is why you think i'm "racist" and you dropped a soft N-word for? :rolleyes:
 
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