Police shooting black man in the back ... again (Kenosha, WI)

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BeecherVol said:
Correct.

How do they know there is someone at a call that has one issued? Did they just guess right in this case or did she have a name?
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I doubt that they guessed.

Once again, the dispatcher’s knowledge is not relevant because the dispatcher did not shoot anyone. The information conveyed to the officers is what is relevant.

If she told them specifically that Blake had a warrant then they knew that he had a warrant and my statement that they “probably didn’t know” would not bear out. If she wasn’t specific, then they still didn’t know.

This isn’t difficult. They’re not a hive mind.
 
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lukeneyland said:
Zero sympathy for any of those rioters who got shot. You play the violent game and sometimes you find someone prepared to be even more violent
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Zero sympathy for the shooter who was arrested and charged with first degree intentional homicide.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Kenosha police shot Jacob Blake 3 minutes after arrival, audio reveals

Sometime before 5 p.m.
A neighbor sees Jacob Blake barbecuing outside his apartment at 2805 40th St.

5:11 p.m.
Officers are sent to Blake’s address for a complaint of “family trouble.” A dispatcher notifies officers that a woman called police and said Blake “isn’t supposed to be there and he took the complainant's keys and is refusing to give them back.”


The dispatcher tells officers that there’s an alert for a person wanted for some reason, known in police radio code as a 10-99, at that address. Blake had a warrant issued for his arrest stemming from a domestic case in May.

5:12:07 p.m.
An officer tells the dispatcher he is close but has not yet arrived at the call.

5:13:47 p.m.
One of the officers assigned to the call asks dispatchers for a description of Blake. The dispatcher tells officers that the woman now says Blake is trying to leave. The dispatcher tries to get a description of Blake’s vehicle but she tells officers that the woman has become uncooperative, and the type of vehicle or what state it’s registered in are unknown.

The officer replies that he has arrived at the address.
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So you're telling me these damn racist cops aren't just running around in circles with no information looking to kill someone!
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I doubt that they guessed.

Once again, the dispatcher’s knowledge is not relevant because the dispatcher did not shoot anyone. The information conveyed to the officers is what is relevant.

If she told them specifically that Blake had a warrant then they knew that he had a warrant and my statement that they “probably didn’t know” would not bear out. If she wasn’t specific, then they still didn’t know.

This isn’t difficult. They’re not a hive mind.
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Correct.
I dont think the dispatcher guess that somebody there had a warrant nor that it was Blake if someone did.

I also don't believe that the situation escalated that quickly because of the original call to 911. Which apparently wasn't a dispute that Blake was trying to break up as some suggested early on.

My 2 cents is the cops knew before arriving there was a warrant and who it was for. Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with the shooting, they were correct on that. It wasn't a mistake
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Resisting arrest should not be a death sentence. If it has come to that, we have no civil liberties.
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Resisting arrest while armed and threatening use of force is asking for a death sentence to any sane human being. You don't wanna die ... don't be be a piece of **** felon with active warrants out on you while going armed, resisting arrest, threatening violence to other citizens and police and in general being a suicidal dumbass.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Correct.
I dont think the dispatcher guess that somebody there had a warrant nor that it was Blake if someone did.

I also don't believe that the situation escalated that quickly because of the original call to 911. Which apparently wasn't a dispute that Blake was trying to break up as some suggested early on.

My 2 cents is the cops knew before arriving there was a warrant and who it was for. Regardless of whether one agrees or disagrees with the shooting, they were correct on that. It wasn't a mistake
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You may be correct. It’s looking more likely than I initially thought, but it’s not confirmed by anything I’ve seen, which is all I’m asking for.

The dispatch setup I’m familiar with involves two people: One is on the phone with the caller and one is on the radio with police. They have a computer system (Computer Assisted Dispatch “CAD”) that helps relay info between them and helps make a record of the interaction. They all try to do their job well and their job is to send officers in with knowledge of the situation. Not every detail makes it to the officers every time.

Seems strange that the reporter who wrote out the timeline would leave out that Blake was the subject of the 10-99, or whatever, if it was in there. He may have been relying on the CAD report, rather than the recording.

Like I said (I think this made it into a post, earlier) they may have rolled up on dude wailing on some woman and had to take action. Or they may have rolled in hot, which happens in domestic situations, and escalated a situation that could have been resolved peaceably. I’ve seen both happen with near equal frequency.

The problem I’m having is getting past all the narratives to the facts that matter.
 
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Y9 Vol said:
Serious question...what has Trump specifically done/not done to cause your current impression of America.
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He's validated more hatred and cultural divide than Obama could have done, even if he had another 8 years, and that speaks volumes.

All of the literal worst people have come out of the woodwork since 2015.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
No it’s not. It requires an inference.
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It's not an inference. Why would Dispatch confirm the warrant on Jacob Blake by name, after having the victim calling say he's there by name, and at the flagged address where his previous incidents were located at in the system? AND the officer ASKED for Jacob Blake's description as he arrived on scene after the warrant was verified.

That's pretty clear evidence of what happened.
 
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ButchPlz said:
My favorite part of this thread is watching a handful of clowns still scramble to defend an armed rapist.
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police = bad

armed rapist felons = misunderstood victim
working with drug dealing boyfriend = victim
violent felon OD'ed on fentanyl/meth = victim
violent felon tried to kill police officers = gentle giant

see how this works? nearly every single time
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
He's validated more hatred and cultural divide than Obama could have done, even if he had another 8 years, and that speaks volumes.

All of the literal worst people have come out of the woodwork since 2015.
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Is it Trump, or the reaction from a segment to Trump, or combination......of 2 sides going too far and reaching and talking out their rears?

I'll go with a mix of too many mouths and agenda's. But, Trump can be his own worst enemy......as can the contrary side to him.........I will agree it is a sh** show all around.
 
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