Political Correctness = Democrat = Socialism = Taking down America

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emainvol said:
Yeah, I am sure you have never misspoke in your life.
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Yeah, I've never said "My Satanic Faith, oops, I mean my Christian faith."

Yep, you're right I haven't to that magnitude. But in true democratic form you took the comment out of context, we were talking about China calling themselves a democracy. Anyone can call themselves anything, but that doesn't make it so.
 
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TacomaJPP said:
I don't know the situation in which you grew up. So I'm not going argue on your perspective. I just completely disagree with giving people something for nothing.

I would like to make a couple of points:

1) I don't know any conservative that favors COMPLETELY getting rid of welfare. I think welfare should be reserved to the mentally and truly physically handicapped as well as those who have recently lost a job and looking for a new one (basically unemployment) and helping people train for new jobs, technologies etc, but they have to work to get it.

2) I'm not against people having healthcare. However, you have to work to get it. People at McDonald's deserve it just like CEO's. Sorry, I just don't believe in a free ride. I bet if I lost my job today, I could have 5 more by the week's end. People are lazy and welfare/socialism encourage it.
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I don't have time to reply to everything (at work), but I don't disagree with people having to earn things in life. It's just that the world isn't black and white, people will fall through the cracks. I've seen it and grew up around it. I've seen people go to work every day to take care of their family but they and their family aren't covered to due to circumstances. I've also seen the scum that don't contribute and their family suffers because of it. I would rather have a system that takes care of every one so no one falls through the cracks.
 
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TacomaJPP said:
Wow, let's pick this apart:

1) The "neocon" phrase: Conservatism is based on conserving the original laws and how the forefathers intended them. Suggesting that I'm a new age conservative is oxymoronic. I'm not a new age conservative. Conservatives are for preserving the old law. So according to said term: I am a new age old law conservative???

2) Socialism on paper: Ha! Millions of people watch socialism fail every year. Watch the stupid show "Survivor" and see how quickly people get sick of watching the lazy butts lay around camp while everyone else gathers water, wood, and food. This is the easiest medium to catch socialism in action. Socialism is a bad idea on paper and in reality. You cannot take away a man's initiative and expect people to work hard and further their personal growth as well as benefit society as a whole.

3) Dumbing stuff down and acting as if I'm close-minded is absurd. I'll admit repubs were tied to part of the housing meltdown. I hate politicians, I just end up voting for Repubs because I only agree with Dems on about two issues. I just rarely agree to the vehicle in which the democrats suggest to tackling issues.
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1) It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, it's a real term. I don't care if you like it. Why don't you try to comprehend?

2) Thank you for strengthening my argument that it is a good idea in theory, but completely impractical in its pure state.

3) I was only giving you what you apparently think I am capable of.
 
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nickknx865 said:
Differrince - France holds election, and has a dual-party system, similar to that of the United States.

China's constitution guarntees the Communist Party to stay in power, and they hold no organized election.
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you might look at the French economy for some help.
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emainvol said:
1) It doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, it's a real term. I don't care if you like it. Why don't you try to comprehend?

2) Thank you for strengthening my argument that it is a good idea in theory, but completely impractical in its pure state.

3) I was only giving you what you apparently think I am capable of.
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1) I'm just making a point that most just use a canned phrase without knowing it's meaning.

2) No, socialism is still crap on paper. Besides, you admit it is impractical in its pure state, but in no facet is it practical. It just doesn't work. Case in point: Russia.

3) I never assumed your intelligence or lack thereof...
 
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it depends on politically correctness, it's kind of an interesting thing. There's a lot of stuff that shouldnt be said because it's horribly offensive to a person. On the other hand though, people have become so worried about offending people with what might be said that they sometimes go ridiculously out of their way. There are wrongs on both ends of it
 
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emainvol said:
So you have out argued me? With what exactly?
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Typical fashion. I have made many points through this post, you have responded to none except made typical "anti-conservative" comments.

Okay, start with the problem of political correctness and socialism by democrats is a bad theory (or in your case why you think it is a good theory)....go.
 
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666 said:
I would rather have a system that takes care of every one so no one falls through the cracks.
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The problem with this mind set is that invariably the worst of human nature takes over and the system is horribly abused. Look at the welfare system.
 
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TacomaJPP said:
1) I'm just making a point that most just use a canned phrase without knowing it's meaning.

2) No, socialism is still crap on paper. Besides, you admit it is impractical in its pure state, but in no facet is it practical. It just doesn't work. Case in point: Russia.

3) I never assumed your intelligence or lack thereof...
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2) When did Russia become a piece of paper?
 
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TacomaJPP said:
Typical fashion. I have made many points through this post, you have responded to none except made typical "anti-conservative" comments.

Okay, start with the problem of political correctness and socialism by democrats is a bad theory (or in your case why you think it is a good theory)....go.
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You are completely full of it, I said neocon and you got all up in arms. I am sorry if you aren't a neocon, you are using language that would lead me to believe you are.
 
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emainvol said:
You are completely full of it, I said neocon and you got all up in arms. I am sorry if you aren't a neocon, you are using language that would lead me to believe you are.
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I'm a neocon - about some things. Don't mind the label either.
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666 said:
I don't have time to reply to everything (at work), but I don't disagree with people having to earn things in life. It's just that the world isn't black and white, people will fall through the cracks. I've seen it and grew up around it. I've seen people go to work every day to take care of their family but they and their family aren't covered to due to circumstances. I've also seen the scum that don't contribute and their family suffers because of it. I would rather have a system that takes care of every one so no one falls through the cracks.
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I understand. We can pick up the conversation when you do have time. But in response...

"I would rather have a system that takes care of every one so no one falls through the cracks."

This is where we differ. I'm sorry, I believe the problem with society boils down to personal accountibility. People should be responsible for themselves it isn't the governments job to take care of everyone. It's like saying you depend on the cops for your security. That's crap, you don't leave your doors unlocked and you probably have a gun in the night stand or a well placed baseball bat because at the end of the day, you take yours (or your family's) security into your own hands instead of depending on the government...
 
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BigPapaVol said:
its economy is littered with it, literally.
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Well, I don't see how.........

(France's) Government economic policy aims to promote investment and domestic growth in a stable fiscal and monetary environment. Creating jobs and reducing the high unemployment rate is the top priority of the French Government. In the 1990s, unemployment fell from 10% to 8.5%, although this rebounded to double digits after the dot-com crash, but currently, unemployment is back under 10%. France joined 10 other European Union countries in adopting the euro as its currency in February 1999. Since then, monetary policy has been set by the European Central Bank in Frankfurt.

Except for a few things, same as the US.
 
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emainvol said:
You are completely full of it, I said neocon and you got all up in arms. I am sorry if you aren't a neocon, you are using language that would lead me to believe you are.
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Was their a factual argument in there about political correctness and socialism or did you ignore a topic that we could debate???
 
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