Politics aside, tonight's speech

Holding parents accountable on education, but giving them free money left and right plus some healthcare.

Gee, wonder if that's more empty campaign gibberish?
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yah givin free money to people left and right for no reason kinda defeats the purpose of edcutation, i mean why learn when big brother will give you a handout?
 
I don't know why put this quote keep going through my head while listening to his speech last night.:whistling:
A quote from the late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005.

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it"
 
I don't know why put this quote keep going through my head while listening to his speech last night.:whistling:
A quote from the late Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931-2005.

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it"

That's all just right wing propaganda. Those people are needy BECAUSE others are rich.
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I disagree with your interpretation of what Obama was saying here. I heard that he was pushing some sort of education beyond high school (and not accepting anything less than a high school degree for our children - and as I said earlier...I think he means or equivalent here, but I could be wrong). I think that this post-secondary education could include trade school, vocational school, an associate's, bachelor's, master's, etc. I personally agree that a more trained/educated workforce is a positive force in an economy.

With our huge numbers of drop outs here in America would we not have to build these schools, fund and run them? Sounds like bigger government, more tax money needed to me. And for what? So many of these students can parlay that expensive vocational instruction into a job at a warehouse? Is this really something we should be supporting right now? Can these kids not already qualify for these jobs without diplomas or vocational training?
 
i'm still missing out on what was so wrong with Jindhal. He wasn't the smooth talker Obama was, but his points were clear and they made sense, at least to me. How is he getting ripped and Obama just continues to throw out promises of what will be and gets away with it?
 
That's all just right wing propaganda. Those people are needy BECAUSE others are rich.
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Then they should get off their butts like the rest of us do and do something about it. I'm in a rather foul mood after talking to my CPA last, the news wasn't good. I thought i actually made some money last year, the IRS said think again.
 
Then they should get off their butts like the rest of us do and do something about it. I'm in a rather foul mood after talking to my CPA last, the news wasn't good. I thought i actually made some money last year, the IRS said think again.

You must be the greedy that everyone keeps telling me about. You know, those who caused this financial mess.
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i'm still missing out on what was so wrong with Jindhal. He wasn't the smooth talker Obama was, but his points were clear and they made sense, at least to me. How is he getting ripped and Obama just continues to throw out promises of what will be and gets away with it?

first of Jindhal isnt the right minority. second off the media is still getting their jollies off to anything that obama has to say.
 
You must be the greedy that everyone keeps telling me about. You know, those who caused this financial mess.
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I guess so. To many people wanting and getting hand outs caused this mess and they want more, go figure?
 
You must be the greedy that everyone keeps telling me about. You know, those who caused this financial mess.
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"greed" is what drives our system. the drive to want to be the best and be the best. Leads to innovations and revolutions. to settle for being mediocre bc big brother will compensate you for not having the desire to be the best, who will want to bust @$$?
 
i'd believe the second part if Fox wasn't ripping him too.

well to me it seems jindhal played it the right way. If he just set out and started blasted him left and right, all that would do is futher the schism in congress. Its amazing how quickly people forget the concept of comprimise.
 
"greed" is what drives our system. the drive to want to be the best and be the best. Leads to innovations and revolutions. to settle for being mediocre bc big brother will compensate you for not having the desire to be the best, who will want to bust @$$?

greed...competition. either or.
 
"greed" is what drives our system. the drive to want to be the best and be the best. Leads to innovations and revolutions. to settle for being mediocre bc big brother will compensate you for not having the desire to be the best, who will want to bust @$$?
When those people figure out it does them no good to try and prosper, thats when the sheet will hit the fan.
 
It would be refreshing to have someone who is just a straight forward talker that speaks from a business sense of less is more. Give the facts, give a position, strongly worded and move on. Someone like that would be a big hit right now.
 
It would be refreshing to have someone who is just a straight forward talker that speaks from a business sense of less is more. Give the facts, give a position, strongly worded and move on. Someone like that would be a big hit right now.

It would be nice, but i don't think there are any straight shooters in washington. They're all crooks.
 
suring the speech, i would have paid a lot of money for someone to have thrown something at pelosi, her mannerisms make my skin crawl
 
suring the speech, i would have paid a lot of money for someone to have thrown something at pelosi, her mannerisms make my skin crawl
Is it true that witch takes a private jet back and forth to california every week? I would have liked to slap her dentures out of her mouth, after the fifteenth time she got up and almost did a rain dance cheering for the messiah.
 
Is it true that witch takes a private jet back and forth to california every week? I would have liked to slap her dentures out of her mouth, after the fifteenth time she got up and almost did a rain dance cheering for the messiah.

i figured she rode a broom, or a cutout of obama

too bad it wasnt an aztec lightning dance and one of them woke up and was like oh, ZAP!! that would be freakin awesome
 
Fox & Friends showed all the shots of her shooting up and clapping this morning. I'm sure lawgator will not approve.

They also showed where Olbermann ran off at the mouth with BJ.
 
It would be refreshing to have someone who is just a straight forward talker that speaks from a business sense of less is more. Give the facts, give a position, strongly worded and move on. Someone like that would be a big hit right now.

Where's H. Ross Perot when we need him?
 

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