Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

Is Donald Trump someone you would call/consider a “good Christian?”

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 6.1%
  • No

    Votes: 67 58.3%
  • I like pie

    Votes: 31 27.0%
  • Turbo just vote here and save everyone time

    Votes: 10 8.7%

  • Total voters
    115
Decisions wrt love, hunches, intuition, gut, feelings, etc.

Ahh. You know that little voice call it a gut feeling you get when you're faced with a moral decision? I think that is G^d/the holy spirit or whatever you want to call it trying to guide you. I don't know about you but when I've listened to that little voice it hasn't steered me wrong but man when I've ignored it I've made some awful decision.
 
Ahh. You know that little voice call it a gut feeling you get when you're faced with a moral decision? I think that is G^d/the holy spirit or whatever you want to call it trying to guide you. I don't know about you but when I've listened to that little voice it hasn't steered me wrong but man when I've ignored it I've made some awful decision.
I think most of us have experiences like that. I wonder how those without faith or who find faith a challenging concept navigate those waters.
 
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I agree. If someone without faith didn't default to logic, I would be concerned.

Sidebar question, how do you manage decisions where faith (non religious) is necessary because there isn't a logical conclusion to guide you?

We all make hard decisions where there are no easy answers or logical conclusions. There's simply pros and cons to each decision. Sometimes we have to choose between something that is better for you financially but more of a burden on your family and your relationship with them. If your goal is solely monetary compensation, there is a logical conclusion. If you give a damn about whether your kids will hate you forever, it may not be so logical. We all make these choices at the time without knowing whether it was the right one or not. There's some faith there, or rather hope, that I made the right decision. However that hope doesn't mean much in the end for me, if in retrospect, I believe I made the wrong decision.
 
I think most of us have experiences like that. I wonder how those without faith or who find faith a challenging concept navigate those waters.

I'm one that finds faith a challenging concept. I do believe that there is a supreme being, G^d I just have problems with religion. I do believe that following the 10 commandments won't steer you wrong.
 
We all make hard decisions where there are no easy answers or logical conclusions. There's simply pros and cons to each decision. Sometimes we have to choose between something that is better for you financially but more of a burden on your family and your relationship with them. If your goal is solely monetary compensation, there is a logical conclusion. If you give a damn about whether your kids will hate you forever, it may not be so logical. We all make these choices at the time without knowing whether it was the right one or not. There's some faith there, or rather hope, that I made the right decision. However that hope doesn't mean much in the end for me, if in retrospect, I believe I made the wrong decision.
I'm not sure you answered the question.

Was falling in love, marrying, having kids, choosing to trust another person in a crucial time a logical thing for you? If not, how to decide when logic or pro/con isn't helping?
 
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I'm one that finds faith a challenging concept. I do believe that there is a supreme being, G^d I just have problems with religion. I do believe that following the 10 commandments won't steer you wrong.
To be candid, I am a believer who attends church and faith is far more challenging than logic. I actively pursue faith daily. I don't have to do that with logic or evidence.
 
To be candid, I am a believer who attends church and faith is far more challenging than logic. I actively pursue faith daily. I don't have to do that with logic or evidence.

Completely understand that.
 
I'm not sure you answered the question.

Was falling in love, marrying, having kids, choosing to trust another person in a crucial time a logical thing for you? If not, how to decide when logic or pro/con isn't helping?

To be honest I didn't really understand your question at first and didn't see your clarification with the Piggy until after I posted.

Love is often not logical and we become psychopaths over it, for better or worse. If you're in love with someone I don't think you're sitting down and weighing pros and cons, which I think is your point.

You're essentially asking what I do if I have to "go with my gut", all I can say is that I have to use my intuition. Which has been right and it has been wrong lol
 
I think most of us have experiences like that. I wonder how those without faith or who find faith a challenging concept navigate those waters.

I lifted this from another corner of the internet but I think it better answers your question than I'd be able to articulate.

Faith and trust are often used interchangeably, but they have nuanced differences. The simplest way to differentiate between faith and trust is that faith is typically associated with beliefs that are based on religion, spirituality, or personal convictions, while trust is related to confidence or reliance on someone or something based on past experiences or evidence of reliability. Here are some key points to help distinguish between faith and trust:

1. Belief vs. Confidence: Faith is often associated with belief in something without tangible evidence or proof, whereas trust is based on confidence or reliance on someone or something due to past experiences or evidence of reliability.

2. Religiosity vs. Reliability: Faith often pertains to religious or spiritual beliefs and involves trust in a higher power, while trust generally relates to reliability and dependability of a person, system, or object.

3. Subjective vs. Objective: Faith is often subjective and based on personal convictions, emotions, and intuitions, while trust is more objective and grounded in observable behavior, consistency, and track record.

4. Unseen vs. Seen: Faith may involve belief in the unseen or intangible, such as the existence of a higher power or afterlife, while trust is typically based on observable actions or behaviors.

5. Emotional vs. Cognitive: Faith often involves emotional or heart-felt convictions, while trust is typically a cognitive assessment based on rationality and past experiences.

It's important to note that the definitions and distinctions between faith and trust may vary depending on cultural, philosophical, or religious perspectives. Some people may use the terms differently or have different interpretations of their meanings.
 
To be honest I didn't really understand your question at first and didn't see your clarification with the Piggy until after I posted.

Love is often not logical and we become psychopaths over it, for better or worse. If you're in love with someone I don't think you're sitting down and weighing pros and cons, which I think is your point.

You're essentially asking what I do if I have to "go with my gut", all I can say is that I have to use my intuition. Which has been right and it has been wrong lol
Hog and I assign gut feelings to Faith or holy spirit. To what do you attribute intuition?
 
I lifted this from another corner of the internet but I think it better answers your question than I'd be able to articulate.

Faith and trust are often used interchangeably, but they have nuanced differences. The simplest way to differentiate between faith and trust is that faith is typically associated with beliefs that are based on religion, spirituality, or personal convictions, while trust is related to confidence or reliance on someone or something based on past experiences or evidence of reliability. Here are some key points to help distinguish between faith and trust:

1. Belief vs. Confidence: Faith is often associated with belief in something without tangible evidence or proof, whereas trust is based on confidence or reliance on someone or something due to past experiences or evidence of reliability.

2. Religiosity vs. Reliability: Faith often pertains to religious or spiritual beliefs and involves trust in a higher power, while trust generally relates to reliability and dependability of a person, system, or object.

3. Subjective vs. Objective: Faith is often subjective and based on personal convictions, emotions, and intuitions, while trust is more objective and grounded in observable behavior, consistency, and track record.

4. Unseen vs. Seen: Faith may involve belief in the unseen or intangible, such as the existence of a higher power or afterlife, while trust is typically based on observable actions or behaviors.

5. Emotional vs. Cognitive: Faith often involves emotional or heart-felt convictions, while trust is typically a cognitive assessment based on rationality and past experiences.

It's important to note that the definitions and distinctions between faith and trust may vary depending on cultural, philosophical, or religious perspectives. Some people may use the terms differently or have different interpretations of their meanings.
I appreciate the share. But that is more an exercise in defining than it is application.

How to you approach moments where logic and reasoning or inadequate and you make a choice based on faith/hope/trust, etc?
 
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Hog and I assign gut feelings to Faith or holy spirit. To what do you attribute intuition?

I'm sure there's some well researched papers that could explain modern psychology's understanding of intuition but to spare all of us I'll just say that I think it comes from my brain.. even if it isn't perfectly logical. Like an instinct.
 
We're trying to study discuss Holy Spirit in church currently. I am leading the discussion in 5 days. Very curious about God in us as a construct of our experiences.
 
I'm sure there's some well researched papers that could explain modern psychology's understanding of intuition but to spare all of us I'll just say that I think it comes from my brain.. even if it isn't perfectly logical. Like an instinct.
That's as good an explanation as any other.

Do you think creative ideas, epiphanies, and such are also emanating from mind, then?
 
We're trying to study discuss Holy Spirit in church currently. I am leading the discussion in 5 days. Very curious about God in us as a construct of our experiences.

When the Holy Spirit enters your body..he says Whoah..lotsa room in here.
 
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