Portal Activity (News and Rumors)

[BigALWiLson]

Also Burns got shifted to the pen the year prior because his stuff wore off and Dollander was ***** fantastic

 

[taylorvol]

I’m speaking of 1:1 communication and feedback. Whether you’re a starter, riding the bench, or get occasional time, it’s not happening. Whether you believe that or not, doesn’t really matter to me. I feel pretty good with my source.

is it a disgruntled player or family member? Is your source biased? I would bet they are.

 

[youcancallmeAl]

Last thing on Burns because it’s kind of overplayed at this point.. it’s really as simple as this:

Burns/his agent want to start every game next year because it is better for his draft stock. V and FA would love to have Burns back and would have started him, but were never going to guarantee him anything because that’s just not how they operate. And therein lies the problem and why Burns is now at another school (I’m guessing one that has promised him the Friday night job). He had been moved to the pen once before (which was 100% the right call by TV/FA) and so they didn’t trust that it wouldn’t happen again

Burns was a good freshman starter, but not as a sophomore. Some guys are actually better coming out of the pen after the game starts, and not mentally suited for a starter role. I've seen a lot of starters drafted only to learn in the pros that they're better off as a reliever. It'll be interesting to see what happens at WF. Will he struggle as a starter like he did last year? I wouldn't be surprised at all.

His problem might stem from the fact that he has only two good pitches - slider and FB. Both of them are very good, but a starter really needs three. Maybe a change-up. So, it could be that his arsenal is not really starter stuff. Could be that the SEC hitters just caught up with him.

 

[Tenacjim]

I can only speak to my son but he has great communication with Frank, Tony, Que, and Elander. I would say that daily he has a conversation with multiple coaches and staff. Maybe, whoever you are talking to is not a good communicator. When we do the podcast, all of the young men speak very highly of the coaching staff and we have interviewed almost every starter on last year's team. They all talk about having the best coaching staff in the nation. If they could not communicate, then it would have come out. Some times people forget that communication is a two-way street. I would think that most people have communication with others if they want feedback. I cannot believe that the coaching staff does not talk to their players. Even this summer when he is not on campus daily he is still talking to the coaching staff and leadership.

“Some times people forget that communication is a two-way street”

Exactly! Anyone who is married and/or has kids has learned this lesson the hard way. “What I said” vs “what they heard” is sometimes MILES apart.

 

[vol66]

Burns was a good freshman starter, but not as a sophomore. Some guys are actually better coming out of the pen after the game starts, and not mentally suited for a starter role. I've seen a lot of starters drafted only to learn in the pros that they're better off as a reliever. It'll be interesting to see what happens at WF. Will he struggle as a starter like he did last year? I wouldn't be surprised at all.

His problem might stem from the fact that he has only two good pitches - slider and FB. Both of them are very good, but a starter really needs three. Maybe a change-up. So, it could be that his arsenal is not really starter stuff. Could be that the SEC hitters just caught up with him.

They do have a pitching lab there, I have this image in my mind about what it looks, pretty funny…anyway, as always, hope he gets where he wants to go.

 

[vol66]

“Some times people forget that communication is a two-way street”

Exactly! Anyone who is married and/or has kids has learned this lesson the hard way. “What I said” vs “what they heard” is sometimes MILES apart.

Daily.

 

[6-4-3]

Plenty fair especially considering all the reports that say that move was big

fwiw the reason I downplay it is I know someone in his “camp” was very vocal about the perceived lack of coaching from FA BEFORE he was even moved to the bullpen. This was happening early Season

This is accurate.

 

[youcancallmeAl]

They do have a pitching lab there, I have this image in my mind about what it looks, pretty funny…anyway, as always, hope he gets where he wants to go.

 

[vol66]

Not quite, but ballpark,

 

[6-4-3]

Well said…and I’ve said this before, and it’s hard to believe for a lot of fans, but the communication from the coaches to the players was lacking. That led to the exit of a lot of players IMO.

I don’t believe that for a minute. You don’t recruit at elite levels and sustain success like this staff has without excellent communication skills. Lack of playing time led to movement in the portal. Plus, I’m sure Burns was told he would be a starter (as that was the original intention but its a fluid situation), however he didn’t perform and it was best for the team to move him to bullpen.
Staff would lose the team (and ultimately their jobs) if they allowed players to dictate their positions. Coaches make team decisions, and some players aren’t happy with those decisions. They are free to look for another opportunity. I’m certainly glad that Lipscomb, Ortega, Lawson, and Scott didn’t…

I took his post to mean that players don’t always know where they stand. Maybe I’m mistaken

 

[Zues1]

Go Big Orange

 

[Volprofch05]

They do have a pitching lab there, I have this image in my mind about what it looks, pretty funny…anyway, as always, hope he gets where he wants to go.

I could bring a few baseballs into my lab and call it a pitching lab if it would help?

 

[drylo]

Burns might have wanted a little more explanation than he got? I am sure Vitello and Anderson had more than a few minutes in explaining their reason. I think Burns knew why he went to the pen and so did everyone else. Vitello is very aware about making sure those players know the “why” part to what he does. That was a huge move, and one which Burns had to understand but just didn’t like.

Chase Burns: Starts 4 SEC games — averages 5.75 ER and 4.1 IP (for an 11.94 ERA), takes 3 losses, as his team drifts to the postseason bubble

Also Chase Burns (?): I don’t understand why they moved me to the pen…

 

[Weezer]

Kid is from Baton Rogue

Well, ****.

 

[ETNVolunteer1]

Burns was not good as a starter this season. Tony did what was in the best interest of the TEAM by pulling him and moving him to closer. I have zero issues with Tony doing what he felt was best for the team (and actually ended up being the right move, even for Burns ). I’m sure Burns wasn’t happy but at the end of the day he’s one player. I respect Tony for doing what he felt would benefit the team most. Good luck to Burns at WF but Go Vols!

 

[WGWTFA98]

I’m speaking of 1:1 communication and feedback. Whether you’re a starter, riding the bench, or get occasional time, it’s not happening. Whether you believe that or not, doesn’t really matter to me. I feel pretty good with my source.

All I know is one of my best friends played for V and absolutely loved the guy. Still keeps in touch with him even though he’s no longer on the team. So I have to say that I doubt that there’s a lack of communication, but I only know one guy so who knows

I think this whole burns situation was more about Burns (or really his agents) not getting told what he wanted to hear and it kind of got overblown from there

 

[WGWTFA98]

I’ve thought about that, too. The only reason I see is that Burns was getting rocked and Dollander was off, but not as off. Who knows.

Part of it is who else starts if you take both out? Dollander did get moved off Friday. The other part is that Dollander was not getting rocked nearly as bad as burns was. Something had to be done, and Tony and Frank did it and it worked tremendously. If it wasn’t want Burns wanted or what he wanted to hear then that’s unfortunate for him, but they don’t just coach chase Burns they coach a team of 40 young men.

 

[WGWTFA98]

Burns was a good freshman starter, but not as a sophomore. Some guys are actually better coming out of the pen after the game starts, and not mentally suited for a starter role. I've seen a lot of starters drafted only to learn in the pros that they're better off as a reliever. It'll be interesting to see what happens at WF. Will he struggle as a starter like he did last year? I wouldn't be surprised at all.

His problem might stem from the fact that he has only two good pitches - slider and FB. Both of them are very good, but a starter really needs three. Maybe a change-up. So, it could be that his arsenal is not really starter stuff. Could be that the SEC hitters just caught up with him.

His 3rd and 4th pitches were absolutely filthy down the stretch.

I think the kid made a bad decision leaving, but at the end of the day say what you want about him even though he was clearly upset he still went out there and gave it his all every time. They definitely do not make it to Omaha without him

He will be the Friday guy at WF and I’m sure will have a great year because he’s incredibly talented. TN will be just fine on arms too, even though you’d obviously love to have a guy like chase burns around if you are able to

 

[WGWTFA98]

“Some times people forget that communication is a two-way street”

Exactly! Anyone who is married and/or has kids has learned this lesson the hard way. “What I said” vs “what they heard” is sometimes MILES apart.

Exactly and I believe this is exactly what is happening here. Tony and Frank felt they did right by Burns, but burns felt like he didn’t get communicated with enough or told the wrong things blah blah blah. At the end of the day I think it’s just that burns didn’t hear what he wanted to hear and that’s where things got overblown

 

[WGWTFA98]

There’s a big difference between communicating and telling someone exactly what they want to hear

 

[vol66]

I could bring a few baseballs into my lab and call it a pitching lab if it would help?

Sure! We obviously need all the help we can get. This is what I think we need to do…

Some kind of slingshot contraption that helps them over the hurdle from mid 90’s to high 90’s.
A six week old baby(might need more than one) so we can show em what life COULD really be like. A home plate the size a dollar bill folded and a drunk frat guy to play the part of “Blue” ( might as well get used to it), Finally, a former field goal kicker at the NFL level for mental health.

Feel free to come up with your own ideas, I’m gonna turn my attention to a new project…Shortstop Lab!

GBO

 

[WGWTFA98]

I think it should make every fan feel good that V has gotten the program to a point talent wise where he’s not going to force a bad decision just to keep one guy pleased. V is very fair and the players LOVE him and he will always try to do what he thinks is right for everyone, but at the end of the day he’s not going to give in to one guys demands just to keep them around, because frankly they can just go find another talented kid out there

And that’s how you build a good competitive and bought in culture. We’ve seen what happens on the football side multiple times when you give in to one player at the expense of the team - great way to lose your locker room

 

[Volprofch05]

Sure! We obviously need all the help we can get. This is what I think we need to do…

Some kind of slingshot contraption that helps them over the hurdle from mid 90’s to high 90’s.
A six week old baby(might need more than one) so we can show em what life COULD really be like. A home plate the size a dollar bill folded and a drunk frat guy to play the part of “Blue” ( might as well get used to it), Finally, a former field goal kicker at the NFL level for mental health.

Feel free to come up with your own ideas, I’m gonna turn my attention to a new project…Shortstop Lab!

GBO

I like it! After the SS lab will be a coaching lab to finally remedy our C+ coaching

 

[vol66]

I like it! After the SS lab will be a coaching lab to finally remedy our C+ coaching

Can’t afford that. Maybe we can get Spyre on it!

 

[Volprofch05]

Can’t afford that.

Alas, maybe someday UT will take athletics seriously and consider investing in them