'25 Portal Thread

#11,727
#11,727
RyanWalkerPGH said:
I truly don't know how anyone can sit there and tell themselves they expect the WRs and OL to make big jumps with Pope & Elarbee.

I noticed you mostly rattled off guys who are coached by the one guy on staff who has shown he can develop players.
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Lance Heard has experience and was hurt early in the year. We have a 5 star freshman that enrolled early at the other T spot. Bama has been playing those type of guys early for years. We have Moe at a guard spot. We have guys who have been developing and learning the center position. Maybe we need another guard for now, but we have bodies.

Our WR's were open this year at times, but because of some poor OL play in-game or because Nico got anxious, we missed them. Mike Matthews, Brazell, and Staley are all talented. I think it's pretty clear that we are adding another WR. Cedric Tillman had done almost nothing until his 1,000 yard year in 2021. Jalin Hyatt had done very little before 2022, and then has a 1,000 yard year (under Pope). Amazing how talent developed.

I truly don't know how some of you have followed football for years.
 
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csprig9 said:
I think we do
I choose positive growth over continuous complaining
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
Show of hands from anyone who feels optimistic we see noticeable improvements from the QB, WR, & OL positions.

Halzle, Pope, & Elarbee. Enough said. Mickey Mouse offensive coaching staff.
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Not sure if you’re aware this or not but teams can get better and no, we’re not in any danger of going back to “mediocrity” like you’re claiming.

If winning 10 games and making the playoffs is considered a downhill tragedy, then maybe you need a better outlook on things.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Not sure if you’re aware this or not but teams can get better and no, we’re not in any danger of going back to “mediocrity” like you’re claiming.

If winning 10 games and making the playoffs is considered a downhill tragedy, then maybe you need a better outlook on things.
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Never said they couldn't get better. I'm just acknowledging this team is losing alot, haven't developed well across entire position groups, and are taking a relaxed approach to the portal.

Also, staff changes should've been made. No reason why Heupel has yet to fire a coach into Year 5.
 
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#11,733
#11,733
RyanWalkerPGH said:
The ole head in the sand approach. If people complaining on message boards hurt the program, then Tennessee just simply doesn't belong.
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Yep
Your exactly right
Fire everyone

Who do you think they hire, realistically?

What oline coach is coming if we fire a coach that has been a finalists for the top oline in the country the last three years….

What WR coach is out there, hartline is the best and he’s not coming unfortunately….

Who would be better than coach halze? Yes there may be some out there but who realistically comes knocking on the door when they know CJH is the OC and a big part of QB coaching


Do some research and answer those questions…. Or keep complaining without answers

I have no answers so I choose to be positive and hope we keep progressing bc honestly we have gotten better
 
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csprig9 said:
Yep
Your exactly right
Fire everyone

Who do you think they hire, realistically?

What oline coach is coming if we fire a coach that has been a finalists for the top oline in the country the last three years….

What we coach is out there, hardline is the best and he’s not coming unfortunately….

Who would be better then coach
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To be fair, I have questions about the Joe Moore Award. What criteria are they using to judge OLs? I saw Army won it this year. Seems like a lot of how they judge these lines is by rushing yards. We've established we can run block. But what about pass blocking? Pass blocking has to improve. We have to be able to protect Nico in the pocket. And if we had questions about pass blocking behind a veteran OL, I think it fair to carry those questions over to what will be almost an entirely new OL.
 
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csprig9 said:
Yep
Your exactly right
Fire everyone

Who do you think they hire, realistically?

What oline coach is coming if we fire a coach that has been a finalists for the top oline in the country the last three years….

What WR coach is out there, hartline is the best and he’s not coming unfortunately….

Who would be better than coach halze? Yes there may be some out there but who realistically comes knocking on the door when they know CJH is the OC and a big part of QB coaching


Do some research and answer those questions…. Or keep complaining without answers

I have no answers so I choose to be positive and hope we keep progressing bc honestly we have gotten better
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I'm just going to pretend you didn't just say all of that lol.
 
#11,736
#11,736
Weezer said:
To be fair, I have questions about the Joe Moore Award. What criteria are they using to judge OLs? I saw Army won it this year. Seems like a lot of how they judge these lines is by rushing yards. We've established we can run block. But what about pass blocking? Pass blocking has to improve. We have to be able to protect Nico in the pocket. And if we had questions about pass blocking behind a veteran OL, I think it fair to carry those questions over to what will be almost an entirely new OL.
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I think pass blocking will improve simply by subtraction
Atleast I’m hoping it does
We had some bad tackles playing
The young guys need to keep progressing and yes that means good oline coaching but also strength and conditioning. Maybe some change need to be made in that program to better prepare the oline also
 
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#11,738
BigOrangeTrain said:
Is there a system set up where fans can donate to help get players? Yes there is. There are currently 4004 memberships of the Volunteer Club. That’s pathetic. How many people are on VN?

Is everyone in this site donating? Highly doubt it. Why not? My view is if you aren’t donating then you shouldn’t be complaining. Why can’t our great fan base kick in more?
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Why not do more advertising? I am not behind the scenes but know for a fact other schools advertise more and request $$ from fans.


He$$, I receive a phone quarterly and mailings monthly from UT asking for $$ to help the academia side of TN, not athletics. Now, I am a season ticket holder and attend away game(s) too, including Ohio State game.
 
#11,742
#11,742
EJVOL4LIFE said:
For everyone who is stressed out over the transfer portal as of right now and how we are gonna look next year, according to FanDuel Sportsbook, Tennessee has the 8th best odds to win the national championship next year. With that being said, I'd love to have the BEST odds to win it all, but I'll take the 8th best odds to win it all next year especially considering where we were just a few years ago. And also, AP has said that he still thinks we add a couple of transfers going down the home stretch of the transfer window. Which lines up with what the insiders continue to tell us fans about signing a couple more players. We are gonna be just fine!!
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With the 8th best odds our best chance of winning would be adjustments to the offense imo …and I would expect that to happen
 
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#11,743
99vawl said:
Later.

In all seriousness, I know how frustrating it is. Especially when nothing is a slam dunk to come to fruition. The waiting isnt fun for anyone
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I'm telling you guys now, I truly believe in our insiders and our coaching staff and we will end up signing a WR and OL by the end of next week. One more thing to add, I was sitting here thinking about our OLine situation and I believe we are gonna be better than a lot of people think. Think about it, these young guys have went against one of the best DLines in the country everyday for the past year or so. Do you all not think getting whipped up on by Eason, Thomas, Pierce, ONL, etc.is gonna make these guys better?? I can't see why it wouldn't. Even if our OLine coach isn't necessarily the best at developing players, going up against these future NFL DL has to speak for something, imo.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
I’m sure someone will comment and say the portal isn’t the answer and then retardedly site Ole Miss as an example.

Oregon has 8 four star transfers currently, all starter quality. They aren’t worried about hurting feelings.

They will be in the playoffs again next season with a team full of transfers. ITS ALL ABOUT WHO YOU CAN GET.

We had a chance with Thompson and Pregnon, but don’t want to pay. It’s crazy.
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Oregon did get murdered by OSU just like we did so the jury is still out on whose method will be more effective. I’m not advocating either position, just saying it’s far from certain their method will end up being better. I like retention and few transfers. You like less retention and more transfers. Either can be effective and we will see how it plays out on the field next year. I personally believe fewer transfers can make it easier to manage a locker room and have fewer issues with chemistry. Doesn’t mean I’m right it’s just my opinion from playing for years at a much lower level. It’s the ultimate team sport and chemistry is incredibly important. See FSU for example. Just providing a different perspective.
 
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#11,746
Dadof2Vols said:
Some people need to remember these guys all came here to coach with CJH with the university on the brink of major sanctions. CJH will show these people extra loyalty and time as a reward for their taking a chance. This coming recruiting class will be the first where they have had a full year to recruit without any NCAA fear of additional penalties.

With this in mind, if he is not happy, I do believe he will make a change after this coming season.
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Pretty much what I had in my head. You just said it more articulately. 😂
 
#11,749
#11,749
99vawl said:
Later.

In all seriousness, I know how frustrating it is. Especially when nothing is a slam dunk to come to fruition. The waiting isnt fun for anyone
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This is just my opinion.

But if we're talking about Tate, I don't think it happens. We've seen this movie before. We'll make an offer, he'll flirt with us, OSU offers more money, he stays put. So unless unexpected staff changes happen at OSU, I just don't see him leaving. I'd love to have him, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Hartline has put WR after WR into the NFL.
 
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99vawl said:
Later.

In all seriousness, I know how frustrating it is. Especially when nothing is a slam dunk to come to fruition. The waiting isnt fun for anyone
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I’ll ask this then, because you usually don’t comment on something that you don’t have information on.

Are there players we’re targeting/back channeling that are not in the portal currently?

Will this go into the spring portal?
 
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