'25 Portal Thread

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patrick said:
It is Heupel’s decision (and Barnes’ and Tony V’). Regardless, OSU went in big on NIL at 20 mill or so which was apparently in the top 2 in college football and it is clearly evident that it was money well spent.

However TN fell significantly behind that threshold at 11.6 million, good for the 15th highest NIL spending. So despite what many in the media and on this board are saying, TN isn’t overspending for players and apparently isn’t paying what several other programs are paying. Rank and file fans are not going to make up that monetary difference (9 million), nor should they be expected to.
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Where did you get your info on how much the Vols spent on NIL?
 
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patrick said:
OSU lost to Oregon, an excellent team, and Michigan.

I guess the KC Chiefs, the Bills, and the Eagles aren’t very good teams because of regular season losses.

TN Vols lost to a 7-6 Ark team so then TN really sucked as a football team. A football season isn’t played in a freaking vacuum.
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I wasn't just referring to the losses they had. Ohio State didn't play nearly as good in any game this season as they have during the playoffs. The Indiana game was probably the closest they came to it. For example, their offense has been borderline unstoppable during their playoff run. They averaged 25 ppg against teams over .500 during the regular season. That included Oregon, Michigan, Iowa Nebraska, Penn St and Indiana. They averaged 36 ppg in the playoffs against Tennessee, Oregon, Texas and Notre Dame. They scored 10 against Michigan at home, 20 at Penn State and 21 against Nebraska at home. If the Ohio State team we have seen over the last month is indicative of how good they really are, then they underperformed during the regular season particularly on offense.
 
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I hate to be negative, but it really feels like Tate is likely to use Spyre/UT as leverage to get more from OSU. The only reason I could see him leaving is if there's some stuff going on in the background at OSU that he's not happy about or he thinks the coaches are going to bump Innis over him and he'll be WR #3 again next season at OSU. I guess there's always the chance that their 5* freshman QB has looked bad in practice and he doesn't trust him. We'll see. I actually like the look of our WR room and think Tate would just be icing on the cake.
 
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LaagerVol said:
Where did you get your info on how much the Vols spent on NIL?
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This has some info, although I don't think it's accurate. I have a tough time thinking Indiana, Michigan State, and Virginia are spending more money than Tennessee and Oregon. List also has Kentucky spending more than Florida State and Iowa spending more than Ole Miss. They've got Colorado at #47 with $5.3M. That's barely enough to cover Hunter and Seaton's deals (assumed).

NIL Collectives – Power 5 Schools – NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

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#12,631
patrick said:
It is Heupel’s decision (and Barnes’ and Tony V’). Regardless, OSU went in big on NIL at 20 mill or so which was apparently in the top 2 in college football and it is clearly evident that it was money well spent.

However TN fell significantly behind that threshold at 11.6 million, good for the 15th highest NIL spending. So despite what many in the media and on this board are saying, TN isn’t overspending for players and apparently isn’t paying what several other programs are paying. Rank and file fans are not going to make up that monetary difference (9 million), nor should they be expected to.
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One thing to note...that $11.6 million you reference is an estimate that came from someone who has no actual insight into how much Spyre spends on the football team. Since it isn't public information, the best estimate would probably be from the guys at VQ (one of which works directly with Spyre reps) and they said it's more around the $15 million mark. Still not at the top of the list, but certainly better than $11.6 million.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
This has some info, although I don't think it's accurate. I have a tough time thinking Indiana, Michigan State, and Virginia are spending more money than Tennessee and Oregon. List also has Kentucky spending more than Florida State and Iowa spending more than Ole Miss. They've got Colorado at #47 with $5.3M. That's barely enough to cover Hunter and Seaton's deals (assumed).

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Pretty much everybody has agreed that this list is inaccurate.

How would anybody even get this data? Calling the NIL collectives and asking?

Collectives have no incentive to share their financial details with anybody.
 
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deatojl said:
I wasn't just referring to the losses they had. Ohio State didn't play nearly as good in any game this season as they have during the playoffs. The Indiana game was probably the closest they came to it. For example, their offense has been borderline unstoppable during their playoff run. They averaged 25 ppg against teams over .500 during the regular season. That included Oregon, Michigan, Iowa Nebraska, Penn St and Indiana. They averaged 36 ppg in the playoffs against Tennessee, Oregon, Texas and Notre Dame. They scored 10 against Michigan at home, 20 at Penn State and 21 against Nebraska at home. If the Ohio State team we have seen over the last month is indicative of how good they really are, then they underperformed during the regular season particularly on offense.
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It seems they had time to heal up. But most of all, I think the Michigan loss lit a fire under their ass. Certainly the chatter about firing Day got a lot louder.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
This has some info, although I don't think it's accurate. I have a tough time thinking Indiana, Michigan State, and Virginia are spending more money than Tennessee and Oregon. List also has Kentucky spending more than Florida State and Iowa spending more than Ole Miss. They've got Colorado at #47 with $5.3M. That's barely enough to cover Hunter and Seaton's deals (assumed).

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Yeah, this has already been debunked as inaccurate, made up nonsense. Not coming at you, just saying you are right to have a tough time believing it lol.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Exactly my thoughts. He likes to get attention but probably ultimately stays at OSU. Of course if Hartline is looking at other jobs maybe there’s a chance. Definitely don’t fault the staff for swinging for the fences though.
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I’d take Hartline in a heartbeat, maybe get him and Tate as a package deal. I can wish lol
 
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Lloyd_Christmas said:
I hate to be negative, but it really feels like Tate is likely to use Spyre/UT as leverage to get more from OSU. The only reason I could see him leaving is if there's some stuff going on in the background at OSU that he's not happy about or he thinks the coaches are going to bump Innis over him and he'll be WR #3 again next season at OSU. I guess there's always the chance that their 5* freshman QB has looked bad in practice and he doesn't trust him. We'll see. I actually like the look of our WR room and think Tate would just be icing on the cake.
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Or maybe OSU knows they will have to make Smith the top paid WR in the country and they might not want/have the ability to pay both Smith and Tate what each player wants. Smith probably commands 2 million or more in NIL value given his dominance. Meanwhile Tate probably commands close to million or possibly more in NIL. He would likely be ranked as the #1 overall WR in the portal, ahead of Singleton and Concepcion. Certainly you would figure he stands to be no lower than 3rd.

I know OSU threw around a lot of money in last year's portal, but spending over 3 million on 2 WRs when you also have Innis and incoming freshman probably making 6 figures as well.... OSU might feel that money would be better spent in other areas rather than paying a million to your WR2.
 
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bpalmer28 said:
This has some info, although I don't think it's accurate. I have a tough time thinking Indiana, Michigan State, and Virginia are spending more money than Tennessee and Oregon. List also has Kentucky spending more than Florida State and Iowa spending more than Ole Miss. They've got Colorado at #47 with $5.3M. That's barely enough to cover Hunter and Seaton's deals (assumed).

NIL Collectives – Power 5 Schools – NCAA Revenue Sharing & NIL Estimates 2025

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It would be great if this source stopped getting posted here.

The estimation methodology has already been debunked (and as you stated there's absolutely no way Virginia is spending more than Oregon). In addition, Vol Twitter jumped on this together with the Spyre rumors about whatever-his-name-is and dragged our NIL collective through the mud, worsening the perception of our University, NIL, and fanbase, and also impacting players (I believe a few insiders said had an impact on Matthews).

All because people got mad about a clearly flawed list.
 
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