Praying Before Game WILL NOT BE STOPPED AT UT (merged)

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It's a sad state of affairs that it's come to this. The prayer isn't even offered in the name of Jesus. It can be a prayer to any God really. Or no God at all for that matter.
 
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KoachKletus said:
Praise Allah,,,I'll have another AK47,,that will make things right. Let's put more guns in the hands of the religious zealots,,,I'm all with you brother Amhir. We NEED MORE GUNS. HALLAH ALLAH,,,or some stupid crap like that. GOD AND GUNS = PEACE

the shining light of ignorance.
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I was about to post something very similar!
 
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Nashvol2 said:
It's a sad state of affairs that it's come to this. The prayer isn't even offered in the name of Jesus. It can be a prayer to any God really. Or no God at all for that matter.
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To believe there is only one single religion is ignorant, and promotes exactly what we're seeing in the Middle East right now with all the protests.
 
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PowerSweep said:
We might even become (gasp)...SWEDEN!! Holy cow, what would we do? The low crime? The high standard of living? The lack of corruption in government?

I shudder at the thought....
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Wouldn't mind that at all, Swedish girls are nice :rock:
 
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Volbeat said:
This....I have asked Christians questions about prayer and why it doesn't always work. They always say that if what they are praying for happens then it's a miracle. If what they pray for doesn't happen then "it's God's will". So pretty much whatever God wants to happen is going to happen which would mean your prayers are pointless. That being said I have no problem with what anyone wants to believe. Just don't judge me because I don't think like you.
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Yeah...sorta like a magic 8 ball...the magic man better at inconclusive stuff, eh? You want to grow a new limb he's out to lunch.

And yet in Matthew:

And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive

Religion makes us all less intelligent and I find the post about how we are going downhill amusing since for 20,000 years we lived pretty much the same existence and have been on a non stop path to making our daily lives so much easier ONLY after we stopped punishing people who followed the scientific method rather than superstitious thought.
 
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Any ways I'd like to say thanks for those who are willing to discuss issues like this peacefully and don't get up in arms about it. Most of the time both sides get hot and angry but haven't seen that in this topic yet so good job folks.
 
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FriendlyGator said:
Rosie O'Donnell was born?
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Oh yeah! How could I have forgotten that?

So based on that horror, yes, I agree. American society is in a great and irreversible decline. Soon we will all be morally destitute, will return to living in trees and slinging feces at one another......
 
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Danl said:
Oh yeah! How could I have forgotten that?

So based on that horror, yes, I agree. American society is in a great and irreversible decline. Soon we will all be morally destitute, will return to living in trees and slinging feces at one another......
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You're describing Gatorsports.com aka GSMB perfectly right there.
 
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Danl said:
Oh yeah! How could I have forgotten that?

So based on that horror, yes, I agree. American society is in a great and irreversible decline. Soon we will all be morally destitute, will return to living in trees and slinging feces at one another......
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By the way, one does not need religion to have morals. My cousin is atheist and he does more good than many Christians I know here in SC.
 
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daj2576 said:
If you read the article, it says that the 6th federal circuit made a ruling in 1997 banning this sort of activity. The 6th circuit, sadly, is Tennessee's circuit, and that means that this ruling is controlling. Fighting this in court will be a waste of money, regardless of how wrong you think it is.

I don't mind observing a moment of silence, in lieu of someone else telling me how to pray. I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but consider it in reverse. What if a Muslim was praying to Allah on the field, I bet the Christians who feel this sort of thing is ridiculous would have a total different opinion then.

Again I say that I have no problem with the prayer in general, but every time I have been to a UT game I have wondered how long it would go on before it was legally challenged.

So many people pretend that they would turn their back on the University for changing a denominational prayer to a moment of silence (so you can pray in your own way), but I don't see anything wrong with it. They aren't removing God from anywhere, he answer's prayers, you don't have to have someone else pray for you to talk to him (unless you are Catholic, but these weren't Catholic priests praying at UT).

Just my two cents.
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I'm Catholic and I'm not familiar with this. Where in the Catechism does it say this?
 
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FriendlyGator said:
1) Hence why I said it was very Catholic of you to say. Yes, protestantism is a grouping, so my bad. Episcopals are more Anglican, which still technically is protestant but we are digressing from the main point.

A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time (Yes, I agree)

87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection. (Yes, I agree too!)

I, and most of my Episcopalian comrades believe that God set everything in motion, and we cannot begin to understand/comprehend Him. That we put too much humanistic characteristics to describe Him, which completely takes away from his omnipotence. Not preaching, but merely establishing a reference point here.

Now we can agree that the Universe was started by the Big Bang, correct? What caused the Big Bang? That's a question I never hear asked. What's to say God didn't clap his hands in which a Big Bang occurred where space, time and everything we have come to know thus far was created? Because a 2,000 year old book says otherwise (again, written by man with no knowledge of science at that time).

Science and religion go hand in hand. If the extremist Christians want to say otherwise, well that's their own fault.

You're trying to argue religion vs. science to me when I am on the side of both. I believe your stance is that of an atheist, my apologies if I am incorrect. Let me ask this of you then, which I'm sure you can appreciate. Prove to me God does not exist.
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I am an an atheist.

As for what caused the big bang I don't know. Perhaps it is not knowable and perhaps it is. But just because we don't have an answer doesn't mean the it must be a magic god...any more than the sun was driven across the sky by the sun god helios or that poseidon caused earthquakes because they didn't have a better answer. Either way you have a much bigger problem..who created god?

You ask me to prove god doesn't exist. I am not the one making an extraordinary claim violating every natural law we have. The onus is on your side...not mine. I can say that there is nothing that is inconsistent with their not being a god.
 
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There is this little bit...
Matthew 6:5-6: "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men....when thou prayest, enter into thy closet and when thou has shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret...."
 
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Burhead said:
Any ways I'd like to say thanks for those who are willing to discuss issues like this peacefully and don't get up in arms about it. Most of the time both sides get hot and angry but haven't seen that in this topic yet so good job folks.
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Indeed:)
 
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