President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[lawgator1]

Back channel communications are treason ?

Trump folks might want to look in the mirror first.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Back channel communications are treason ?

Trump folks might want to look in the mirror first.

Never know what happens if you don't start proceedings to see what's all involved there.
Why should you care anything about what would happen to Milley? Is he your hero?

 

[lawgator1]

No, I am certainly not, LG, your posts exhibit some serious signs of being over-the-top disturbed about Trump. Or you're a bad troll.

You're not really reading what was actually said and/or understanding how Trump works. He says outrageous, or seemingly outrageous stuff. For example, we are no closer to having plans for putting boots on the ground in Gaza than we were a week ago.

His idea has merit if for no other reason is that he is right on the core idea that the Palestinians live in a crappy place with few resources and even crappier leadership that leads to having their homes destroyed and dying by the thousands every so often.

So he brings a new idea to the table. It is an idea! And all the deranged leftists, including you, my friend, crap your pants. A framework to involve the powers in the area to make something worthwhile. He's not Henry Kissinger and throws out ideas as a basis for discussion in less than politic language.

Believe this or not, I say this as a friend: calm the hell down.

I guess maybe its a difference in how we view US government in international affairs. I prefer a speak softly and carry a big stick approach to irrational bluster made on a whim.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Back channel communications are treason ?

Trump folks might want to look in the mirror first.

That depends on the content of the communication, doesn't it?

Just Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Oh, wait....let's go with Aldrich Ames instead.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Back channel communications are treason ?

Trump folks might want to look in the mirror first.

If you are planning to sell out your country, yes.

Jesus. You have some serious problems.

 

[lawgator1]

That depends on the content of the communication, doesn't it?

Just Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Oh, wait....let's go with Aldrich Ames instead.

Well, luckily Trump is rapidly dismantling our ability to monitor and react to such communications, per Putin.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

If you are planning to sell out your country, yes.

Jesus. You have some serious problems.

Its like having a conversation w/a fence post or w/that sparky swampfox poster.

 

[Ritzwatch]

Well, luckily Trump is rapidly dismantling our ability to monitor and react to such communications, per Putin.

Per Putin? Really? So, now he is credible?

Not sure how you should go about disposing of your Ukrainian flags. Maybe contact their embassy for surrender.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Well, luckily Trump is rapidly dismantling our ability to monitor and react to such communications, per Putin.

Still obsessed w/Putin are ya? You need to get out more.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Its like having a conversation w/a fence post or w/that sparky swampfox poster.

I don't think this morning I would have imagined I would have to explain to an adult in 2025 that a senior General going behind the back of the President to coordinate full disclosure of an attack in advance to an enemy is treason.

I'm thinking he just walks around with a dirty ass all day because he doesn't know how to wipe it.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Here's a nice video of Sen. Kennedy trying to explain the idiocy of the Democrats.

 

[jaybird_1981]

The Caveman comes out of his cave to make threats. What clowns these guys are.

What is a grass up movement? We really do send the best and brightest to congress huh.

 

[lawgator1]

Per Putin? Really? So, now he is credible?

Not sure how you should go about disposing of your Ukrainian flags. Maybe contact their embassy for surrender.

Depends on whether you believe Putin and the Russians have worked to interfere in our elections, social media, etc. I believe that to be the case and so am naturally concerned when Trump, who without question benefited from such interference at various points, acts to thwart efforts to detect and combat it. Anyone with common sense would have that concern.

If you believe that Putin and the Russians did not interfere, then you presumably would not have the same concerns. I can't debate or discuss it with you if you take that position, which I believe to be fundamentally at odds with objective evidence that they DID interfere.

But, having said that, I think the ultimate issue is the DEGREE to which that interference occurred. There is no way to quantify that, but in my view if we can't be certain of that now, then the absolute LAST thing we should be doing is reducing our ability to detect it moving forward.

 

[GroverCleveland]

I guess maybe its a difference in how we view US government in international affairs. I prefer a speak softly and carry a big stick approach to irrational bluster made on a whim.

Fair enough take. I'm just saying take a step back and don't take everything Trump says as The Gospel of Donald. It will do your BP good.

 

[lawgator1]

Fair enough take. I'm just saying take a step back and don't take everything Trump says as The Gospel of Donald. It will do your BP good.

Probably a very valid point, lol!

 

[hog88]

Well, luckily Trump is rapidly dismantling our ability to monitor and react to such communications, per Putin.

Let it flow, let it flow.

 

[hog88]

Depends on whether you believe Putin and the Russians have worked to interfere in our elections, social media, etc. I believe that to be the case and so am naturally concerned when Trump, who without question benefited from such interference at various points, acts to thwart efforts to detect and combat it. Anyone with common sense would have that concern.

If you believe that Putin and the Russians did not interfere, then you presumably would not have the same concerns. I can't debate or discuss it with you if you take that position, which I believe to be fundamentally at odds with objective evidence that they DID interfere.

But, having said that, I think the ultimate issue is the DEGREE to which that interference occurred. There is no way to quantify that, but in my view if we can't be certain of that now, then the absolute LAST thing we should be doing is reducing our ability to detect it moving forward.

Putin and the Russians aren't the only foreign actors who have "interfered" in our elections just like we have interfered in the elections of numerous countries.

Our government can only ensure that our elections are secure, it cannot control social media or media in general.

 

[lawgator1]

Let it flow, let it flow.

Being so dismissive of the point tends to prove the larger concern that Trumpsters just don't want to even acknowledge the possibility that Putin holds oddly unnatural sway over Trump.

 

[lawgator1]

Putin and the Russians aren't the only foreign actors who have "interfered" in our elections just like we have interfered in the elections of numerous countries.

Our government can only ensure that our elections are secure, it cannot control social media or media in general.

No but it hopes to know when it is occurring, and by whom.

 

[hog88]

Being so dismissive of the point tends to prove the larger concern that Trumpsters just don't want to even acknowledge the possibility that Putin holds oddly unnatural sway over Trump.

For over 8 years you have been slinging this crap against the wall and absolutely none of it has stuck. Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

 

[hog88]

No but it hopes to know when it is occurring, and by whom.

Helps who?

 

[lawgator1]

For over 8 years you have been slinging this crap against the wall and absolutely none of it has stuck. Have you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

I disagree. I think there has been plenty of evidence of it.

 

[hog88]

I disagree. I think there has been plenty of evidence of it.

Ok, post it.

 

[LouderVol]

Being so dismissive of the point tends to prove the larger concern that Trumpsters just don't want to even acknowledge the possibility that Putin holds oddly unnatural sway over Trump.

is it actually possible? sure.

is it actually worth considering? At this point no. with how much the Trump / Putin angle has been reviewed for years, and nothing has come out, its no longer reasonable to argue that it "could be if we just looked into it".

at some point you if you are constantly accused of something crazy, you just stop responding. its not worth the effort to continuously respond. as others have pointed out, its Boy who Cried Wolf. at this point it almost wouldn't matter if you proved some nefarious connection between Russia and Trump, people are tired of hearing about it.

 

[swampfoxfan]

arrest any that were violent. escorting the rest out was the right call.

Can you show the doors and windows that were busted. How about legislators offices ransacked? Death threats issued or police officers attacked? Those things are acceptable in trump world.