President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[swampfoxfan]

It's expected when you fire people. But we are creating tons of jobs

You lose

Not to deny but what jobs have been created? And how could we have a lose of jobs if "tons" have been created.

 

[hog88]

Not to deny but what jobs have been created? And how could we have a lose of jobs if "tons" have been created.

Lot's of seasonal jobs go away after the holidays.

 

[EasternVol]

I applaud you for actually trying to back up your asinine statement, but this article does not help your cause.

I will make it easy for you. What is the definition of provide? What is the definition of promote? Please give an example of each and how they supposedly mean the same thing.

Not definitions but examples:
The US government provides for the common defense by directly maintaining a military.
The US government promotes the general welfare by sending money to states to distribute for school lunches, special education, etc.
The preamble not mentioning taking from the rich to give to the poor is immaterial. That comes from our tax structure, which is constitutional.

 

[luthervol]

I had a post with some legitimate debate potential right above the joke which elicited a response from you.
So there you go.

 

[hog88]

Not definitions but examples:
The US government provides for the common defense by directly maintaining a military.
The US government promotes the general welfare by sending money to states to distribute for school lunches, special education, etc.
The preamble not mentioning taking from the rich to give to the poor is immaterial. That comes from our tax structure, which is constitutional.

That wasn't a consideration when the document was written.

 

[InVOLuntary]

LOL

Lol

US approves $7.4bn sale of more weapons to Israel used to ravage Gaza

State department signs off on bombs and missiles sales that the US claims would help Israel ‘defend its borders’

www.theguardian.com

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-plans-8-billion-arms-sale-israel-axios-reports-2025-01-04/

Redirect Notice

 

[LSU-SIU]

I had a post with some legitimate debate potential right above the joke which elicited a response from you.
So there you go.

If you say so.

 

[luthervol]

That wasn't a consideration when the document was written.

They certainly worded it in a way that allows for the consideration. Maybe they simply were not careful in their wording.

 

[hog88]

They certainly worded it in a way that allows for the consideration. Maybe they simply were not careful in their wording.

No, I firmly believe they never envisioned a nation full of dependent freeloaders.

 

[Sea Ray]

Lol

Republicans Criticize Obama's Push to Use Executive Power

Obama's new drive to use executive power to advance his policy goals is drawing fire from Republicans who accuse him of overreaching his authority.

www.wsj.com

Trump's record number of executive orders are testing the limits of presidential power

President Donald Trump has already issued (and revoked) a record number of executive orders.

abcnews.go.com

I don’t recall Obama ever being called Hitler. And if he was, you’re missing the dichotomy of a dictator ceding power to another like Trump ——-> Musk. Your Obama analogy doesn’t fit

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

What does the Democrat Party stand for?

1) Abortion
2) Men in women's sports
3) Resist Trump in everything else.
4) Being Anti-American against common sense legislation.
5) Democrat's Approval rating is at 21%

 

[luthervol]

No, I firmly believe they never envisioned a nation full of dependent freeloaders.

But they envisioned a lunatic culture of gun nuts? Odd - the things they could and could not envision.

 

[Sea Ray]

Those two scenarios are not mutually exclusive.

It sure hurts the racist narrative.

 

[swampfoxfan]

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That's a perfect picture of the average maga

 

[evillawyer]

 

[EasternVol]

Since you refuse to answer the question, I will treat you like my 14-year-old students when I teach them the Constitution so maybe you can understand it.

Provide means to give. This one is simple. If I provide lunch for you, that means I give you lunch. In context of the Constitution, it is the federal governments job to provide or give us our defense.

Promote is not as straightforward as provide. If you ask me to promote your rap concert, does that mean I give you a free place to put it on at and buy all the tickets for the concert? Of course not. Promote means I tell or show people why your concert is a good idea, I tell them it would be fun, it would be good for them to support someone local, they will get to hang out with their friends, etc. So, promote means that I think something is a good idea and it will help you in one way or another, so I want you and others to know about it. In context of the Constitution, promote means things the government thinks will be good for its citizens such as education, safety, proper nutrition, daily exercise, etc. It does not mean the government is to provide these things.

As far as your "scholars" comment, scholars used to think the moon was made of cheese, the Earth was flat and many other idiotic things, that didn't make them correct any more than it makes you correct.

Was Copernicus a Goudanik or a Stiltonite? Which scholars thought the moon was made of cheese?
Scholars have known since ancient times that Earth is round.

 

[Sea Ray]

He’s Hilter but he’s also an appeaser like Chamberlain. He needs to either appease or defeat himself.

I don’t think Hitler has ever been accused of being an appeaser

 

[hog88]

But they envisioned a lunatic culture of gun nuts? Odd - the things they could and could not envision.

We don't have a "lunatic culture of gun nuts". But yeah they envisioned a heavily armed citizenry.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

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I left out 6).... everything is racist.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

That's a perfect picture of the average maga

Make America Great Again.

 

[Sea Ray]

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Targeting Ukrainians looks like a bow to Putin. It doesn't change his stance being racial or not.

If he’s a white supremacist I’d sure think he’d welcome those pale white Eastern Europeans.

I’d buy the idea that he’s bowing to Putin more than that he’s a white supremacist.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

That's a perfect picture of the average maga

Dems…..always branding.

 

[EasternVol]

You're pushing Alex Jones? Filter, man, filter.

 

[BeardedVol]

I don’t recall Obama ever being called Hitler. And if he was, you’re missing the dichotomy of a dictator ceding power to another like Trump ——-> Musk. Your Obama analogy doesn’t fit

What does being called Hitler or not have to do with Republicans criticizing Obama's use of executive orders, while whistling through the graveyard as Trump goes far beyond any other president with executive orders?

Does being called Hitler by someone, make them suddenly immune to all criticism?