President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

[whodeycin85]

Great policies? They were trash and the numbers say the same. You guys prove that Trump is a marketing genius. He didn't even have to deliver for you to back him completely. He's the ultimate rug pull

Do you plug a hole in a leaking boat first or do you come up with the long term solution first...?

 

[508mikey]

It does not take a rocket scientist to see that this is their game plan.

All the more reason it will cost the morons next elections and good riddance to them

 

[BreatheUT]

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Trump was right again but like Ras said this lying administration has no shame. We must start voting them out. They will make it as difficult as they can though with race wars, authoritarian behavior to crack down on those who are against their policies, etc. The language they've used speaks to it. They are just distracted with bigger fish to fry internationally they've mismanaged.

 

[BreatheUT]

Do you plug a hole in a leaking boat first or do you come up with the long term solution first...?

I would've though pj would be wiser on this point.

 

[AM64]

Hmm

Now do US petroleum exports.

In 2020, the United States exported about 8.51 MMb/d and imported about 7.86 MMb/d of petroleum1, making the United States a net annual petroleum exporter for the first time since at least 1949. Also in 2020, the United States produced2 about 18.40 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum, and consumed3 about 18.12 MMb/d. Even though in 2020, total U.S. annual petroleum production was greater than total petroleum consumption and exports were greater than imports, the United States still imported some crude oil and petroleum products from other countries to help to supply domestic demand for petroleum and to supply international markets.

The United States remained a net crude oil importer in 2020, importing nearly 5.88 MMb/d and exporting about 3.18 MMb/d. However, some of the crude oil that the U.S. imports is refined by U.S. refineries into petroleum products—such as gasoline, heating oil, diesel fuel, and jet fuel—that the U.S. exports. Also, some of imported petroleum may be stored and subsequently exported.

Oil imports and exports - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

 

[hog88]

True but that one wall project from the disabled vet turned out to be a true scam. Think he went to jail?

Don’t know what you are talking about.

 

[utvolpj]

I would've though pj would be wiser on this point.

That's beehive you don't understand what the wise choice is. You believe the party

 

[C-south]

We have an ass-hole for a president. 81 million voted for that dimwit.

Allegedly

 

[Vol423]

We need labor to address our needs. That's something you can't admit. You only care because it's one of your team colors.

I say bring on the free market and let it decide. Why are you against the free market? Would you not call yourself a conservative?

...and, as usual, you completely side-stepped the question. Do you want to eliminate illegal immigration? Yes or no? It's a very simple question.

I am 100% an advocate of addressing labor needs through legal immigration. My sister-in-law is a legal immigrant that later became a U.S. citizen. The immigration policies need to be overhauled. Nevertheless, there is a system. The solution is to eliminate illegal immigration and change the immigration policies. The solution is NOT to continue to allow illegal immigrants, drug cartels, human traffickers, terrorists, etc. free entry over an intentionally wide-open border.

 

[AM64]

I don't think this is going to shame these guys. They want high gasoline prices to justify us switching over to EVs. They are happy about how things are setting up. Seriously...

Might work if they could get the sun to shine 24/7, so we didn't need petroleum products to produce the electric power for the EVs. Of course, 24/7 sun would really heat up global warming. Wonder how long it's going to take some people among us to recognize the fact that electric power doesn't just come out of a plug - that it's a little more complex.

 

[AM64]

You stop it with policy and reform that addresses our needs, not walls

So have you thought about shuttered industries and offshoring production of previously US built goods and how the apparent lack of labor works? Somehow there sure seems to be a lot of previously employed US citizens who apparently don't need to work ... underground economy of some sort or government programs? You can't get something for nothing, and that definitely includes income. Something doesn't add up on the labor front.

 

[AM64]

Look up the price of one A Rivian SUV starts at 70 k

And then one fine day it's going to need a new battery pack.

 

[Majors]

Trump was right again but like Ras said this lying administration has no shame. We must start voting them out. They will make it as difficult as they can though with race wars, authoritarian behavior to crack down on those who are against their policies, etc. The language they've used speaks to it. They are just distracted with bigger fish to fry internationally they've mismanaged.

The shame is staying silent until the news cycle changes. We will hear less covid and it'll shift toward voter suppression and Jan. 6th to get the base excited that somehow Trump will be prosecuted and locked up.

 

[AM64]

We need labor to address our needs. That's something you can't admit. You only care because it's one of your team colors.

I say bring on the free market and let it decide. Why are you against the free market? Would you not call yourself a conservative?

Why didn't we have a labor shortage when we built stuff in the US? It hasn't been that long ago, and we haven't had some tremendous drop in population.

 

[utvolpj]

...and, as usual, you completely side-stepped the question. Do you want to eliminate illegal immigration? Yes or no? It's a very simple question.

I am 100% an advocate of addressing labor needs through legal immigration. My sister-in-law is a legal immigrant that later became a U.S. citizen. The immigration policies need to be overhauled. Nevertheless, there is a system. The solution is to eliminate illegal immigration and change the immigration policies. The solution is NOT to continue to allow illegal immigrants, drug cartels, human traffickers, terrorists, etc. free entry over an intentionally wide-open border.

It's a loaded question. We need to address the labor needs which would change many of the loaded definitions being used. You just think that word means more than it really does

A better question would be are you against the free market and in favor of govt mandated artificial market controls?

You have a nice anecdote but I've never seen a strawberry that could last 8-10yrs to be picked or a chicken that was still fresh after that length of time. Maybe I'm just behind on food tech

 

[utvolpj]

Why didn't we have a labor shortage when we built stuff in the US? It hasn't been that long ago, and we haven't had some tremendous drop in population.

That was quite a while ago and no one was really getting elected on illegal immigration. Our population was smaller and so was consumption.

Not sure who made it such a wedge but they were quite smart

 

[Vol423]

It's a loaded question. We need to address the labor needs which would change many of the loaded definitions being used. You just think that word means more than it really does

A better question would be are you against the free market and in favor of govt mandated artificial market controls?

You have a nice anecdote but I've never seen a strawberry that could last 8-10yrs to be picked or a chicken that was still fresh after that length of time. Maybe I'm just behind on food tech

Just like all leftists, you refuse to answer a simple question, but your actions and statements reveal the answer.

 

[utvolpj]

Just like all leftists, you refuse to answer a simple question, but your actions and statements reveal the answer.

My day's not complete on VN until I'm called a leftie. Bonus when I can get a conservative to admit they're more in favor of govt controls than free markets

 

[AM64]

That was quite a while ago and no one was really getting elected on illegal immigration. Our population was smaller and so was consumption.

Not sure who made it such a wedge but they were quite smart

Sorry that doesn't add up. If population was smaller, then the percentage of the population available as workers would also have been smaller. Supposedly we've employed more automation to improve productivity, so you have to discount productivity losses. If consumption has risen, then somehow people have to have income to fuel the consumption increase; how do they get that without working. None of this is adding up. Now if you accept that a larger percentage of the population isn't in the workforce, you have to figure out where their income to survive comes from. If you start there, then you better start looking at government programs - the "safety" nets, and how they are a disincentive.

People in the business and government sectors need to study some fundamentals like thermodynamics and feedback and controls ... if they can. To effect change you damn sure better understand the concept of frictional losses - it applies to an economy, too, and how change propagates through a system - that requires understanding positive and negative feedback mechanisms. Just plain common sense would tell you that offshoring industry is going to have a bunch of differing effects on different parts of the economic and social spectrum; but the endgame is that as the country's wealth erodes from a wrong sided trade imbalance, there will be the day that most people can't buy imported goods no matter how cheap. If not for government redistribution based on government debt, how can so many non working people still be consumers?

 

[utvolpj]

Don’t know what you are talking about.

Damn you for making me do research

Decorated veteran at center of U.S. fraud charges on border-wall fundraising

 

[CagleMtnVol]

So Peppermint Patty basically just said it's more important to get America off fossil fuels than it is to do more domestically to help lower gas prices.

This administration is insane!

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

So Peppermint Patty basically just said it's more important to get America off fossil fuels than it is to do more domestically to help lower gas prices.

This administration is insane!

Biden/Harris administration is Anti-American at it's finest. Joe made a pledge in his campaign to do away w/fossil fuel.
But they have gone & put the cart in front of the horse. They're not ready to do what was promised. We still need fossil fuels in America to keep us strong & running. It's simple math.

 

[AM64]

It's a loaded question. We need to address the labor needs which would change many of the loaded definitions being used. You just think that word means more than it really does

A better question would be are you against the free market and in favor of govt mandated artificial market controls?

You have a nice anecdote but I've never seen a strawberry that could last 8-10yrs to be picked or a chicken that was still fresh after that length of time. Maybe I'm just behind on food tech

So who used to pick strawberries, and where have all the cotton picking chicken pluckers gone? Maybe waiting tables and waiting for .gov to pay off student loans because their talents were too rich to waste in the fields? We used immigrant labor to pluck strawberries and other farm goods for decades, so what are all the illegals doing now? Perhaps since they are illegal they are adding to consumption but can't enroll as farm labor because they are here illegally? And where does corporate farming vs the old fashioned family farm factor into all this - too much inflated overhead in the office and too little in the fields despite all the automation? Maybe we're chasing our tails doing stuff like growing corn to dilute our gasoline and stealing resources that should be growing food?

 

[hog88]

Damn you for making me do research

Decorated veteran at center of U.S. fraud charges on border-wall fundraising

Never heard of this, thanks for the legwork.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

As always ... Biden is pretty much wrong on everything he's doing. He's really good at leading from behind. He listens to the wrong advisors who are left-wing radicals that want to see America fail. Now with Biden & his mental state, they see the opportunity to speed up the process.