Presidential Debate #1 Game Thread

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#126
I just do not connect with this world and what brings voters in. How are "tax cuts" viewed as a bad thing. I hate Obama's thinking.
 
#127
#127
I had trouble following McCain's responses they were so muddled with canned comments he was eager to get in because he thought they were slight Obama in some way, it made trying to make sense out of position painful.
 
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oklavol said:
I had trouble following McCain's responses they were so muddled with canned comments he was eager to get in because he thought they were slight Obama in some way, it made trying to make sense out of position painful.
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Most people could follow his comments - not sure what your problem was :p
 
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#130
allvol123 said:
I just do not connect with this world and what brings voters in. How are "tax cuts" viewed as a bad thing. I hate Obama's thinking.
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I agree. It's completely counter-intuitive. Just goes to show how successful Democrats have been at creating class envy over tax cuts that logically are larger for people who pay more taxes.
 
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#131
oklavol said:
I had trouble following McCain's responses they were so muddled with canned comments he was eager to get in because he thought they were slight Obama in some way, it made trying to make sense out of position painful.
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Are you Kevin from the tv show "The Office"?
 
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#132
allvol123 said:
I just do not connect with this world and what brings voters in. How are "tax cuts" viewed as a bad thing. I hate Obama's thinking.
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you have to understand liberals thoughts, they think they know how to run our lives better than we do. they think if they provide us with everything, we'll all be happy little sheep.

liberals have to play devisive politics, whether it's race warfar or class warfare, they are truly the party of and for division. it's truly sad.
 
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oklavol said:
I had trouble following McCain's responses they were so muddled with canned comments he was eager to get in because he thought they were slight Obama in some way, it made trying to make sense out of position painful.
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McCain's comments couldn't possibly have been harder to understand than the above sentence.
 
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#134
GAVol said:
I agree. It's completely counter-intuitive. Just goes to show how successful Democrats have been at creating class envy over tax cuts that logically are larger for people who pay more taxes.
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McCain disappoints me for not hammering him on this. A truly good leader can take a view and make people understand why it is the correct view even if it is not the cool sounding view.
 
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oklavol said:
No one watching that debate with an open mind is going to thik McCain was a better speaker, was the more prepared debater, more articulate. Compared to Obama he looked like was in a high school debate.
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And Tennessee really did beat Florida last week despite what the scoreboard said.
 
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joevol320 said:
oklavol, you must love shiny toys. you need to listen to the substance of what they were saying. it was obvious that hussein obama is very ignorant when it comes to foreign policy. retreat and surrender will not bode well 8-10 year from now. that's what you libs just don't understand.
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Your the clueless one. If you think spending all of our resources on this Iraq war instead of the other problems facing this country like the energy crisis, banking crisis, etc your just as clueless as Bush and McCain are.

The country is in the position it's in now, in part because of the total vacuum of leadership in Congress and the White House. McCain wants to talk about what he's done over the last 25 yrs as if as a nation we've been going down the right path for the last 8 years, but we haven't. And everyone watching the debate knows that.

If McCain doesn't start talking about what he would do in the future and how he would addess and fix our problems instead of what he perceives as his success in the past, then he has no chance at winning this election.

I kept waiting for McCain to present some idea or solution to our problems he didnt have them. Obama kept going over all the mistakes this country has made in foreign policy including Iraq, and how we need to do things differently in the future and then McCain tried to defend the obviously poor choices that need to be rethought. How can he win a debate like that? He can't.
 
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joevol320 said:
you have to understand liberals thoughts, they think they know how to run our lives better than we do. they think if they provide us with everything, we'll all be happy little sheep.

liberals have to play devisive politics, whether it's race warfar or class warfare, they are truly the party of and for division. it's truly sad.
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Do you believe any of the crap you spout?
 
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oklavol said:
Your the clueless one.
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It's you're.

oklavol said:
The country is in the position it's in now, in part because of the total vacuum of leadership in Congress and the White House.
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Remind me again which party controls congress?

oklavol said:
I kept waiting for McCain to present some idea or solution to our problems he didnt have them. Obama kept going over all the mistakes this country has made in foreign policy including Iraq, and how we need to do things differently in the future and then McCain tried to defend the obviously poor choices that need to be rethought. How can he win a debate like that? He can't.
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O-blame-a did nothing but blame the problems on Bush and refer to McCain as a Bush supporter. He clearly cannot win on merit and issues, so his primary tactic is blame. Weak. Very weak.
 
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#142
I seem to remember many of these same talking heads (journalist, politicians, etc) saying Kerry won the debates. Then before that it was Gore won the debates. How did that work out?
 
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superdave1984 said:
It's you're.


Remind me again which party controls congress?



O-blame-a did nothing but blame the problems on Bush and refer to McCain as a Bush supporter. He clearly cannot win on merit and issues, so his primary tactic is blame. Weak. Very weak.
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To interject, neither one of you has said anything of substance yet. Just thought I would get that out there.
 
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#144
superdave1984 said:
It's you're.


Remind me again which party controls congress?



O-blame-a did nothing but blame the problems on Bush and refer to McCain as a Bush supporter. He clearly cannot win on merit and issues, so his primary tactic is blame. Weak. Very weak.
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If you think we would be in Iraq now if the democrats had the majority in 2002 you are clueless. We are in Iraq now because of how the Republicans went along with Bush's very poor foreign policy. You really think the democrats would take power in 2006 and then immediately pull out of Iraq? I guess you are saying the same thing about Obama now.
 
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#145
emainvol said:
To interject, neither one of you has said anything of substance yet. Just thought I would get that out there.
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Welcome to the Politics forum. We're all prone to speaking in rhetoric and without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. Kind of like our football coaches.
 
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#147
oklavol said:
If you think we would be in Iraq now if the democrats had the majority in 2002 you are clueless. We are in Iraq now because of how the Republicans went along with Bush's very poor foreign policy. You really think the democrats would take power in 2006 and then immediately pull out of Iraq? I guess your the same ones saying the same thing about Obama now.
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Obama wants to pull out of Iraq now, way before now. And he doesn't care the consequences. He has no clue about military affairs or strategy. He wants to attack Pakistan for crying out loud. He contradicted himself twice in the same sentence when talking about it.
 
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#148
oklavol said:
If you think we would be in Iraq now if the democrats had the majority in 2002 you are clueless. We are in Iraq now because of how the Republicans went along with Bush's very poor foreign policy. You really think the democrats would take power in 2006 and then immediately pull out of Iraq? I guess you are saying the same thing about Obama now.
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Just wondering; why do you think the Democratic controlled House and Senate have a lower approval rating than the President?
 
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GAVol said:
That's just ridiculous.
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It would be hard for me to name anyone in Congress who is worse at debate then McCain. I can't remember one paragraph of his that was concise, articulate, and on point. Where Obama was all night. I kept listening to McCain thinking when is he going to address directly the question poised? Why does he keep going on these irrelevant tangents? Obama was like he knew the questions before the debate and spent the last 2 weeks preparing his answers.
 
#150
#150
Look, if you think Obama won, fine. But your attempt to paint McCain's performance as a train wreck is comical.
 
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