Presidential Debate 2020

[wmcovol]

What actual examples did you give? And I can go back and link all the studies for you. And link the Fox News article where they apologize for manipulating the photo. And link scientists saying that now they know more about the virus so recommendations have changed.

Then do it.

Google retracted news stories on Trump. There are plenty. You can post those too.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I believe you‘ve misspelled “mocking.”

That’s a bold move cotton. Mocking while having proven nothing. But I guess it’s all you’ve got on this argument every time it comes up.

All you and BB have made is a “where there’s smoke there’s fire” weak ass plea. Without actual proof that’s just conjecture. Womp womp.

 

[OHvol40]

I actually responded to another post later on having a graph which correlated amounts burned being fairly constant but with increasing population I think it showed. Basic message was now they’re not burning wilderness it’s populated areas with higher valuations. That could very well be the case I conceded. However that doesn’t remove the responsibility from CA to protect their citizens so I’d still submit my statement somewhat hold true. They are not keeping up the the growth in services demand.

All of that holds some truth. It doesn’t change the fact that 60% of west coast forests are federal land. If management is an issue, it’s largely the president and his administration’s issue. If it’s something else, it’s their responsibility to address whatever those issues may be in conjunction with the states.

 

[NorthDallas40]

All of that holds some truth. It doesn’t change the fact that 60% of west coast forests are federal land. If management is an issue, it’s largely the president and his administration’s issue. If it’s something else, it’s their responsibility to address whatever those issues may be in conjunction with the states.

The Feds are responsible for their lands I agree with you on that. But it’s shared responsibility with the state making sure the other 40% comply with the upkeep regulations.

 

[luthervol]

The 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act did not require future balanced budgets. The balanced budget Act was not passed until 1997. Get your facts straight Luther.

They're straight. Seems the dems led by Clinton were for balancing the budget long before Newt led the house.

 

[RockyTop85]

That’s a bold move cotton. Mocking while having proven nothing. But I guess it’s all you’ve got on this argument every time it comes up.

All you and BB have made is a “where there’s smoke there’s fire” weak ass plea. Without actual proof that’s just conjecture. Womp womp.

Mocked for declaring victory, he declares victory.
Mocked for not remembering what argument he started, he proves he doesn’t remember.

 

[lawgator1]

All of the fires? Really. Because the Feds own 58%, the state owns 3%, and private entities or native organizations own the rest. The owner of the land is responsible for upkeep.

Not all of course. There are many of them. But he can't blame it all on someone else. And you know that pisses him off.

 

[Hunerwadel]

They're straight. Seems the dems led by Clinton were for balancing the budget long before Newt led the house.

His administration actually did balance the budged and ran a surplus for four straight years.

 

[luthervol]

His administration actually did balance the budged and ran a surplus for four straight years.


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Hogg gives the credit to Newt, even before the repubs had the house. Clinton/Dems reduced the level of deficit spending for 4 straight years before running the surplus.

 

[1972 Grad]

Hogg gives the credit to Newt, even before the repubs had the house. They reduced the level of deficit spending for 4 straight years before running the surplus.

As I recall, the "surplus" had some fancy bookkeeping.

 

[MarcoVol]

Then do it.

Google retracted news stories on Trump. There are plenty. You can post those too.

Typical, but sure, I’ll do all the work for you. Enjoy.

Lack of PPE led to no mask recommendation in beginning by Fauci

Fauci says his mask stance was 'taken out of context' by Trump

Fauci says he doesn't regret telling Americans not to wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic

Others say more info, new recommendations

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

Masks work

Can face masks protect against the coronavirus?

Masks Save Lives: Duke Study Confirms Which Ones Work Best | Hartford HealthCare

Fox using manipulated photos

Fox News Removes Manipulated Images Of Seattle Protests After Blowback

Fox News Can’t Stop Running Faked Images of Seattle’s Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Fox lawyers say Tucker Carlson shouldn’t be taken as serious by reasonable people

You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

HCQ not showing clinical efficacy treating COVID. 3 studies

Three big studies dim hopes that hydroxychloroquine can treat or prevent COVID-19

Retracted Trump stories. All regarding Russia. Are there others?

https://apnews.com/article/5f32c14a803e43359dff5e8151dade4c

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-40414886

 

[wmcovol]

Any of us on this board could balance the budget if we cut military spending enough. It’s not rocket science

 

[luthervol]

As I recall, the "surplus" had some fancy bookkeeping.

Maybe it was Trump's tax guy.

 

[wmcovol]

Typical, but sure, I’ll do all the work for you. Enjoy.

Lack of PPE led to no mask recommendation in beginning by Fauci

Fauci says his mask stance was 'taken out of context' by Trump

Fauci says he doesn't regret telling Americans not to wear masks at the beginning of the pandemic

Others say more info, new recommendations

Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

Masks work

Can face masks protect against the coronavirus?

Masks Save Lives: Duke Study Confirms Which Ones Work Best | Hartford HealthCare

Fox using manipulated photos

Fox News Removes Manipulated Images Of Seattle Protests After Blowback

Fox News Can’t Stop Running Faked Images of Seattle’s Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone

Fox lawyers say Tucker Carlson shouldn’t be taken as serious by reasonable people

You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

HCQ not showing clinical efficacy treating COVID. 3 studies

Three big studies dim hopes that hydroxychloroquine can treat or prevent COVID-19

Retracted Trump stories. All regarding Russia. Are there others?

MSNBC's O'Donnell retracts Trump story

CNN resignations over Russia-related story

You posted none of the stories about the people fired at CNN for fake stores. Or CNN fake imagines? Or WaPo retractions. Or NYT retractions.

You posted Fauci story. This guy has been quietly fired. He has no credibility now. Numerous reports (and common sense) tells us masks don’t work except to give people false security. They’re out there. Try reading one.

There’s plenty of stories and examples of HCQ success. You completely ignore the fact that studies can be influenced by the billions of dollars being made developing a new cure when one could already be here.

 

[Septic]

As I recall, the "surplus" had some fancy bookkeeping.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Mocked for declaring victory, he declares victory.
Mocked for not remembering what argument he started, he proves he doesn’t remember.

Oh you’re back. So do you have any actual supporting proof for your and BB’s hasty conclusion fallacy that you can’t sell. Again.

One leg left.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Not all of course. There are many of them. But he can't blame it all on someone else. And you know that pisses him off.

Lol. Ok I’ll take the walk back.

 

[RockyTop85]

Oh you’re back. So do you have any actual supporting proof for your and BB’s hasty conclusion fallacy that you can’t sell. Again.

One leg left. View attachment 310549

You’re asking me to support the conclusion that the Mueller or Senate Intel reports detail active involvements between the Trump campaign and agents acting on behalf of the Russian government?

 

[NorthDallas40]

You’re asking me to support the conclusion that the Mueller or Senate Intel reports detail detail active involvements between the Trump campaign and agents acting on behalf of the Russian government?

Ok we’re done. Not going to play parsing with you tonight.

 

[MarcoVol]

You posted none of the stories about the people fired at CNN for fake stores. Or CNN fake imagines? Or WaPo retractions. Or NYT retractions.

You posted Fauci story. This guy has been quietly fired. He has no credibility now. Numerous reports (and common sense) tells us masks don’t work except to give people false security. They’re out there. Try reading one.

There’s plenty of stories and examples of HCQ success. You completely ignore the fact that studies can be influenced by the billions of dollars being made developing a new cure when one could already be here.

Wow you’re just, well, on a totally different level than I even imagined.

Keep denying that pesky science, brother. Good luck!

 

[RockyTop85]

Ok we’re done. Not going to play parsing with you tonight.View attachment 310554

I accept your apology.

 

[1972 Grad]

www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2018/06/22/Bill-Clinton-s-Surplus-Miracle-20-Years-Later

 

[NorthDallas40]

I accept your apology.

And that statement fits perfectly with the black knight. Awesome

 

[wmcovol]

Wow you’re just, well, on a totally different level than I even imagined.

Keep denying that pesky science, brother. Good luck!

Watch early video of Dr. Fauci saying COVID-19 not a big concern in US (Opinion) | News Break

And this is your “expert”. Ex is a has been and pert is a drip under pressure. Fauci is an expert then.

 

[MarcoVol]

Watch early video of Dr. Fauci saying COVID-19 not a big concern in US (Opinion) | News Break

And this is your “expert”. Ex is a has been and pert is a drip under pressure. Fauci is an expert then.

This is how it works, man. Just like the links I posted regarding CDC recommendations. Just like I said in my first post response to you.

Let’s try again:

They made recommendations based on available date.

They made new, different recommendations based on new, additional, continual collection of data. Can’t stress this enough - this was a novel virus.

It’s ok to change your recommendations based on more info/studies of data. The ridiculous move is to take the first piece of advice and say “yep, that’s it, it’ll never change and that’s it and that’s all it can be forever and ever”. And that appears to be your stance.