QB competition..

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papatomany said:
Goalpost is 60 yards away. With trajectory could've had anywhere from 3 to 5 more yards (not +10). Still pretty good distance for an alleged weak-armed guy , eh?
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I think the weight room has done Dobbs some good. His passes in the orange and white game had more zip than I remembered his throws having last season.

If he can get his weight up around the 225 range without sacrificing speed, we could have an extremely dangerous QB on out hands a year from now or so.
 
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papatomany said:
Goalpost is 60 yards away. With trajectory could've had anywhere from 3 to 5 more yards (not +10). Still pretty good distance for an alleged weak-armed guy , eh?
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10+?

He was standing on the 50 yard line. Goal post is another 10 yards at the back of the end zone, that's 60 yds. Plus the additional 4-5 yds because he hit an object 10 feet high at 60 yds.....60+ yds IMO.

Agree that his arm is more than strong enough.
 
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Toward end of the O&W, when all 4 QBs took turns in the drill to throw the ball at targets at various ranges, both Ferguson and Dobbs stood out as more impressive than Worley and Peterman, in terms of rifling that ball and smacking those targets "right in the numbers." Not bashing W and P, just saying what I observed.

I know its not same as doing it in a game, but just one more bit of evidence about arm strength and ability to put the ball where it needs to go.
 
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GrowVol said:
SJT and KBVol? What are you guys opinions' on our QB's with a weaker/inexperienced OL? Will we need a mobile QB to compete?
I go back and forth between Worley(reliable).....then Dobbs(mobile)...fergy(no clue-hasnt played)

(not smartass---honest question)
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Not sure, I'm certainly no expert. I've heard a few different guys say that they think we'll possibly rely on the short passing game early to potentially mitigate the potential mistakes that may come from the OLs youth and inexperience. We certainly have a few guys now (North, Malone, Pearson, the young talented TEs) who can athletically turn a short/quick route into a big gain.

No doubt that in this system a mobile, willing-to-run QB is better and I honestly believe all 4 can do that with Dobbs showing that he's an excellent playmaker with his feet. That being said, decision - making, good judgment and accuracy are still the traits that are gonna best determine who our starting QB will be. My money's on Worley starting game 1 even though I personally really like Dobbs
 
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KBVol said:
10+?

He was standing on the 50 yard line. Goal post is another 10 yards at the back of the end zone, that's 60 yds. Plus the additional 4-5 yds because he hit an object 10 feet high at 60 yds.....60+ yds IMO.

Agree that his arm is more than strong enough.
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this is true! at 1st glance, i didn't realize this plus where it hit. that's at least a 65 yd toss
 
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KBVol said:
Not sure, I'm certainly no expert. I've heard a few different guys say that they think we'll possibly rely on the short passing game early to potentially mitigate the potential mistakes that may come from the OLs youth and inexperience. We certainly have a few guys now (North, Malone, Pearson, the young talented TEs) who can athletically turn a short/quick route into a big gain.

No doubt that in this system a mobile, willing-to-run QB is better and I honestly believe all 4 can do that with Dobbs showing that he's an excellent playmaker with his feet. That being said, decision - making, good judgment and accuracy are still the traits that are gonna best determine who our starting QB will be. My money's on Worley starting game 1 even though I personally really like Dobbs
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Thx... agree but it will be interesting to see how things play out. GBO!
 
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coug said:
Seeing that it looks like Worley will likely be starter, do you see any of the other QB's looking to transfer?
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coug said:
What about Dobbs or Ferguson. They're younger so they'd be more motivated in not wanting to ride the bench.
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Well now that Ferguson is transferring how does that switch up the QB competition?
 
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coug said:
Well now that Ferguson is transferring how does that switch up the QB competition?
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It doesn't.... battle between Worley and Dobbs with edge to Worley, no? Peterman distant 3rd and we better hope everyone stays healthy.
 
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Hey, I tried to tell "SOME FOLKS" about Riley, but all I got in return was a bunch of jibberish.

didn't i say Butch said Riley would never be the starting Qb at the University of Tennessee?:

Riley Ferguson was the only quarterback not elected into the players staff by his teammates. Not a good sign. Every time Riley went home to NC it was a battle to get him to come back to Knoxville. “Playing QB at UT is a ‘Global Position’ and Riley could never understand that,” Butch Jones.
 
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i guess when i was saying all this, i didn't know anything or i was just "against" riley......well now it's all out on front street.

Riley Ferguson was the only quarterback not elected into the players staff by his teammates. Not a good sign. Every time Riley went home to NC it was a battle to get him to come back to Knoxville. “Playing QB at UT is a ‘Global Position’ and Riley could never understand that,” Butch Jones. It was not grades, it was not one poor decision, it a laundry list of entitlement issues and classic immaturity. Butch gets it right? Would a guy that gets it put the future of the program in the hands of a guy that doesn’t appreciate what he has at the end of the day? I think not! Riley hated to watch film, was not a leader and felt like raw ability should get him the job every time…sound familiar? (Tyler Bray) Mike Bajakian told me yesterday, on Tuesday, that it would be hard to ever put the ball in the hands of someone that you don’t trust. The “T” word is the single most important word in that QB meeting room and that is FACT! Bottom line was Riley did not want the pressure and responsibility of the position he was battling for. He wanted to be handed the job because he has more physical ability and no intangibles, that my Vol fan friends is a ‘no go’ every time in my VFL playbook. Riley left on his own accord and that is true. Positive note, I guarantee these 2015 QB recruits are taking notice of a 3 QB roster! Commit now of forever hold your jorts! There was always promise with Riley Ferguson to MAYBE, one day, figure it out and be great while still in that beautiful PMS 151 jersey. Now he will be at Charlotte? Dobbs flipping late was not by accident, tremendous ability but a lack of work ethic can be seen in a matter of one meeting from Coach to player. All my best, from old #10 to old #10.

http://www.tnsportsradio.com/2014/05/28/ferguson-really-gone/
 
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And yet it was his practice film they showed prospective WR recruits? Somethings fishy.

Could it be that RF was not this staffs QB recruit and that Dobbs was. Could it be that one was privately shown favoritism and that play calling was tilted to mask deficiencies and promote productivity for one, while another was put in less than favorable positions. Could it be that these type of things,, unseen to the average fan, wore on a young man and made him resent being in the film*room. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall.
 
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Roustabout said:
And yet it was his practice film they showed prospective WR recruits? Somethings fishy.

Could it be that RF was not this staffs QB recruit and that Dobbs was. Could it be that one was privately shown favoritism and that play calling was tilted to mask deficiencies and promote productivity for one, while another was put in less than favorable positions. Could it be that these type of things,, unseen to the average fan, wore on a young man and made him resent being in the film*room. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall.
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just Riley being Riley. all one had to do was watch his play and listen to the coaches without a bias ear. Butch been saying that Riley wasn't the guy. instead, some folks decided that they only wanted to hear what suited their own personal agendas and were pissed when told otherwise. go back and read. it's pathetic!
 
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Roustabout said:
And yet it was his practice film they showed prospective WR recruits? Somethings fishy.

Could it be that RF was not this staffs QB recruit and that Dobbs was. Could it be that one was privately shown favoritism and that play calling was tilted to mask deficiencies and promote productivity for one, while another was put in less than favorable positions. Could it be that these type of things,, unseen to the average fan, wore on a young man and made him resent being in the film*room. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall.
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or maybe he was a Tyler Bray clone who wanted to get by on talent and not have to watch film and work towards being a better QB?
 
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i told folks butch already knew what he had in Dobbs. the spring game was for Riley to prove he could play big boy ball and he failed miserably. now butch comes out and clearly in his very own words explains everything i had previously told folk in this thread. few agreed, but quite a few acted anal about it.

the facts were there.

told them about the media reports as well. how they were not accurate and only tailored towards what the majority wanted to hear. folks didn't listen
 
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Roustabout said:
And yet it was his practice film they showed prospective WR recruits? Somethings fishy.

Could it be that RF was not this staffs QB recruit and that Dobbs was. Could it be that one was privately shown favoritism and that play calling was tilted to mask deficiencies and promote productivity for one, while another was put in less than favorable positions. Could it be that these type of things,, unseen to the average fan, wore on a young man and made him resent being in the film*room. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall.
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Or maybe you're his dad?
 
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#871
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coug said:
I just don't see how Ferguson could be anywhere near as physically developed as the other players with his leg injury. Wearing that boot for months really sets you back.
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Is this cat for real? This has to be a troll, no?
 
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Roustabout said:
And yet it was his practice film they showed prospective WR recruits? Somethings fishy.

Could it be that RF was not this staffs QB recruit and that Dobbs was. Could it be that one was privately shown favoritism and that play calling was tilted to mask deficiencies and promote productivity for one, while another was put in less than favorable positions. Could it be that these type of things,, unseen to the average fan, wore on a young man and made him resent being in the film*room. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall.
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Awfully cynical. Previous staff? Maybe. This staff. Doubtful IMO.
 
#875
#875
lexkyvol said:
i guess when i was saying all this, i didn't know anything or i was just "against" riley......well now it's all out on front street.

Riley Ferguson was the only quarterback not elected into the players staff by his teammates. Not a good sign. Every time Riley went home to NC it was a battle to get him to come back to Knoxville. “Playing QB at UT is a ‘Global Position’ and Riley could never understand that,” Butch Jones. It was not grades, it was not one poor decision, it a laundry list of entitlement issues and classic immaturity. Butch gets it right? Would a guy that gets it put the future of the program in the hands of a guy that doesn’t appreciate what he has at the end of the day? I think not! Riley hated to watch film, was not a leader and felt like raw ability should get him the job every time…sound familiar? (Tyler Bray) Mike Bajakian told me yesterday, on Tuesday, that it would be hard to ever put the ball in the hands of someone that you don’t trust. The “T” word is the single most important word in that QB meeting room and that is FACT! Bottom line was Riley did not want the pressure and responsibility of the position he was battling for. He wanted to be handed the job because he has more physical ability and no intangibles, that my Vol fan friends is a ‘no go’ every time in my VFL playbook. Riley left on his own accord and that is true. Positive note, I guarantee these 2015 QB recruits are taking notice of a 3 QB roster! Commit now of forever hold your jorts! There was always promise with Riley Ferguson to MAYBE, one day, figure it out and be great while still in that beautiful PMS 151 jersey. Now he will be at Charlotte? Dobbs flipping late was not by accident, tremendous ability but a lack of work ethic can be seen in a matter of one meeting from Coach to player. All my best, from old #10 to old #10.

Why Is Ferguson Really Gone? - Tennessee Sports Radio - Tennessee Sports Radio
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Need to get some neosporin on those nail holes. :angel:
 
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