Question for the board regarding Bill Cosby. Is

[SpaceCoastVol]

I just believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Call me crazy.

Except of course when loose cigarettes are involved.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Same woman for 28 years. Same woman for 28 years. Same woman for 28 years.

After six months I'm already looking for something new lol:

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What if... as hard as it will be for you to imagine....they actually were victimized and have been silent for fear that nobody would believe their story about America's favorite Dad?

Cosby was not that powerful. You make it out as though this guy had access to IRS records or could just send hitmen out on family members if they talked.

Again, Bill Clinton didn't have anywhere near this many accusers or rape or infidelity, and he at least had women that had either eyewitnesses of possible rape (Juanita Brodderick) or a stained blue dress to prove their had an encounter. The only thing that has come out even remotely is one of the women had a photograph of Cosby on the phone while they were in the hotel room together. And even then, that isn't proof of rape. Heck, its not even proof that a sexual encounter occurred (technically).

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not in the 70's. Really, not even in the 80's. He was a black man who supposedly raped a white woman. He would have been skewered.

Hell, he would be/is being skewered TODAY for (allegedly) raping a white woman.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Sure he does. And the accusers deserve their stories be heard with an open mind.

I don't think anyone has argued against their stories being heard.

I think the argument is that you just can't take them at face value with no evidence.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Women already have gotten dimes from Cosby.

Micheal Jackson paid out dimes, also.

I guess paying = guilty, right?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

He's like a few black men who I have personally known who even though they are married think they have a God given right to bed every woman they can. I don't defend his morality.

Was Cosby a bad husband? Sure.

Is Cosby a rapist? That is something totally different. That is a huge leap to make.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Micheal Jackson paid out dimes, also.

I guess paying = guilty, right?

Not in a court, but i do believe he was a pedophile

 

[FLVOL_79]

For a payday? To get 15 seconds of fame? Get a book deal? A reality show?

There are several reasons to want to fabricate a story if there was something to gain out of it.

That cannot be overlooked. The amount of people desperate for that kind of attention is staggeringly large.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Except of course when loose cigarettes are involved.

I still believe in innocent until proven guilty. Garner died before he was able to get his day in court, however.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not in a court, but i do believe he was a pedophile

Based on what?

 

[Sandvol]

Was Cosby a bad husband? Sure.

Is Cosby a rapist? That is something totally different. That is a huge leap to make.

Huge leap.

 

[GAVol]

That cannot be overlooked. The amount of people desperate for that kind of attention is staggeringly large.

...and then there are accounts like this.

http://josephcphillips.com/2015/07/of-course-bill-cosby-is-guilty

 

[Sandvol]

Not in a court, but i do believe he was a pedophile

He was definitely an odd bird. Pedophile? I'm skeptical.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

And we're not in a court of law. We're talking on a message board and you've done nothing but bash the women. Cosby's word is gold and these women asked for it or are lying.

Dude, one of the women that accused Cosby also falsely accused Marv Albert 20 years ago.

With people like that making accusations, you have to caution on the side of Cosby being innocent until evidence comes out to the contrary.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I still believe in innocent until proven guilty. Garner died before he was able to get his day in court, however.

Which, in your mind, makes the cops guilty of murdering him.

 

[GAVol]

Dude, one of the women that accused Cosby also falsely accused Marv Albert 20 years ago.

With people like that making accusations, you have to caution on the side of Cosby being innocent until evidence comes out to the contrary.

Marv wasn't exonerated, he cut a deal and plead out to a lesser charge.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

...and then there are accounts like this.

OF COURSE BILL COSBY IS GUILTY! » Joseph C. Phillips

GA, you really don't believe Cosby is a rapist. Why are you even entertaining this Devil's Advocate stance on this when you know good and well that the accusers and their stories are just incredible and bizarre. Like one lady accused Bill Cosby of shoving his member in her mouth while backstage of the Tonight Show when they were both guests. Now how does that even happen? Physically, how would a guy just be able to walk up on someone and do that?

BTW, it was later learned that this woman and Cosby were never on the Tonight Show on the same night...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Marv wasn't exonerated, he cut a deal and plead out to a lesser charge.

I was speaking about the odd tails of Patricia Madsen. The Marv Albert trial and his alleged guilt is for another debate.

Albert became the focus of a media frenzy in 1997, when he went on trial for felony charges of forcible sodomy.[17] A 42-year-old woman named Vanessa Perhach[18] accused Albert of throwing her on a bed, biting her, and forcing her to perform oral sex after a February 12, 1997 argument in his Pentagon City hotel room. DNA testing linked Albert to genetic material taken from the bite marks and from semen in Perhach's underwear.[19] During the trial, testimony was presented from another woman, Patricia Masden, who told the jury that Albert had bitten her on two different occasions in 1993 and 1994 in Miami and Dallas hotels, which she viewed as unwanted sexual advances.[20] Masden claimed that in Dallas, Albert called her to his hotel room to help him send a fax, only for her to find him wearing "white panties and garter belt".[21] Albert maintained that Perhach had requested that he bite her and denied her accusation that he'd asked her to bring another man into their sexual affair. He described the recorded conversation of hers with the police on the night of the incident "an Academy Award performance".[18] After tests proved that the bite marks were his, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault and battery charges, while the sodomy charge was dropped.[17][22] Albert was given a 12-month suspended sentence.

So, Albert bit her twice (not once) in a similar fashion that the news media had described that Perhach had been attacked (copycat??) and then she gives us the image of Marv in lingerie? Really?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Marv wasn't exonerated, he cut a deal and plead out to a lesser charge.

Former Playboy bunny P.J. Masten claimed in a group CNN interview with other Cosby accusers last Friday that Cosby drugged her and raped her in a Chicago hotel, and alleged that other Playboy bunnies were also raped by Cosby.

But this isn’t the first time Masten has accused a high profile celebrity of sexual abuse.

Masten also joined in sexual abuse accusations against sportscaster Marv Albert in the 1990s, and was represented by lawyer Gloria Allred during the Albert case. Masten accused Albert of biting and assaulting her after Albert had already been accused of biting and assaulting another woman. Albert called Masten’s claim a “complete fabrication.”

Even Marv Albert’s original accuser, Vanessa Perhach, accused Masten of “riding my comet” and joining in the allegations against Albert only “for the money,” according to a 1997 New York Daily News article.

Histories Of Several Cosby Accusers Cast Doubt On Tales | The Daily Caller

 

[GAVol]

GA, you really don't believe Cosby is a rapist. Why are you even entertaining this Devil's Advocate stance on this when you know good and well that the accusers and their stories are just incredible and bizarre. Like one lady accused Bill Cosby of shoving his member in her mouth while backstage of the Tonight Show when they were both guests. Now how does that even happen? Physically, how would a guy just be able to walk up on someone and do that?

BTW, it was later learned that this woman and Cosby were never on the Tonight Show on the same night...

Lol... You literally didn't address one sentence from the story in that link and instead moved on to outrageous stories you knew you could refute.

 

[Sandvol]

Lol... You literally didn't address one sentence from the story in that link and instead moved on to outrageous stories you knew you could refute.

Yeah, but you copy a link and want him to grind wheels and expend time and energy. He responds with something he's already familiar with.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

...and then there are accounts like this.

http://josephcphillips.com/2015/07/of-course-bill-cosby-is-guilty

“Back in the day,” I started. “I remember that you knew Bill – that he was like your mentor or something. Did he ever…”

Before I finished the sentence, she began to cry.

We spent the next two hours sitting on a bench talking. Through tears, she told me her story. She cursed him for violating both her trust and her body. She cursed herself for not being smarter, and for degrading herself in pursuit of success. I listened patiently. As she began to run out of steam, she turned to me. “Do you believe me?”

So are you saying that Cosby raped this woman based on this?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Which, in your mind, makes the cops guilty of murdering him.

Unfortunately, the cops never got their day in court, either.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

He's like a few black men who I have personally known who even though they are married think they have a God given right to bed every woman they can. I don't defend his morality.

LOL. Man you just keep making yourself look worse.