Question for the board regarding Bill Cosby. Is

[Carl Pickens]

No one has condoned rape in here.

Relax

Yeah just only condoned plugging passed out women.... Big difference

 

[Carl Pickens]

Why would someone willingly go to an orgy?

Why do you drink?
Why do you smoke?
Why do you take a Quaalude?

Obviously to get raped once I pass out..... Doesn't everyone?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Different circumstance altogether. Any self-respecting man would stop at that point. If a woman falls asleep while I am having sex with her, it would be rather insulting and I would immediately lose my drive.

Speaking off topic a bit but any real responsible man finishes what he starts.

 

[Sandvol]

Yeah just only condoned plugging passed out women.... Big difference

Plugging? Your respect for women is showing.

 

[BartW]

Having sex with an incapacitated person is rape unless she says I'm going to take this pill and i want you to wait until I'm unconscious and them **** me like a corpse.

Jesus Christ. JUST BECAUSE A WOMAN COMES TO AN ORGY DOESN'T MEAN SHE WANTS TO BE RAPED. What the hell is wrong with you? If she passes out, she is off limits. Pretty ****ing standard **** here.

How is this so hard to understand?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Plugging? Your respect for women is showing.

I guess I should have said rape so you'd be ok with the terminology

 

[apevol]

This is getting ugly

 

[Sandvol]

I guess I should have said rape so you'd be ok with the terminology

You used the term plugging. You own it now.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yeah just only condoned plugging passed out women.... Big difference

You still haven't shown where anybody condoned or supported that.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You still haven't shown where anybody condoned or supported that.

I'm sure a few of us have plugged a few dams.

 

[GAVol]

You still haven't shown where anybody condoned or supported that.

Nobody is going to ever overtly support rape. Where people get sideways is when they try to make it all about sex so they can dismiss it more easily.

 

[Carl Pickens]

You still haven't shown where anybody condoned or supported that.

You answered the question point blank, but Sandy considers it implied consent.

 

[volfanhill]

You still haven't shown where anybody condoned or supported that.

Well Sand clearly doesn't think sticking it in an unconscious women is rape, so I am pretty comfortable saying he is pro rape.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I don't think anybody ever overtly supports rape. I think where people get sideways is when they try to make it all about sex so they can dismiss it more easily.

I don't think it is fair to suggest that someone is even "covertly" supporting rape because they suggest that most rape is about sex and not about power. I don't even know how taking one side or the other can be spun into "I condone rape".

What the debate between "sex vs. power" does do, however, is get people riled up and upset because those arguing that it is about sex are accused of "victim blaming" when they say that things could have been done to minimize the risk of rape. That is where people really get bent out of shape...

 

[FLVOL_79]

Well Sand clearly doesn't think sticking it in an unconscious women is rape, so I am pretty comfortable saying he is pro rape.

Is that like people who are anti GMO are pro starving children?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Sand, here's a little hypothetical. If a woman goes to an orgy can she refuse sex with anyone or is her presence implied consent to sex with all?

 

[Sandvol]

Sand, here's a little hypothetical. If a woman goes to an orgy can she refuse sex with anyone or is her presence implied consent to sex with all?

Yes. But, if she willingly has sex with every man there and then passes out and one of the men has sex with her while she is passed out is it rape?

 

[Sandvol]

Clarify, yes she can refuse.

 

[volfanhill]

Yes. But, if she willingly has sex with every man there and then passes out and one of the men has sex with her while she is passed out is it rape?

Of course it is. It's quite simple.

 

[Sandvol]

Another hypothetical. What if the woman willingly comes to the orgy but leaves her clothes on but sits in the pile of bodies. A man approaches her and no words are exchanged and she just looks away devoid of emotion. The man removes her clothes and has sex with her and all the time no words are exchanged and she doesn't respond in any way. Is that rape?

 

[apevol]

Another hypothetical. What if the woman willingly comes to the orgy but leaves her clothes on but sits in the pile of bodies. A man approaches her and no words are exchanged and she just looks away devoid of emotion. The man removes her clothes and has sex with her and all the time no words are exchanged and she doesn't respond in any way. Is that rape?

You're getting pretty weird on us

 

[Sandvol]

You're getting pretty weird on us

Finally a compliment.

 

[volfanhill]

Finally a compliment.

I think all but one other person on here thinks you are a creep.

 

[Sandvol]

I think all but one other person on here thinks you are a creep.

Just for your own edification. I don't care. But, your feigned indignation is obvious.

 

[volbeast33]

You're getting pretty weird on us

I think you are getting a view of what a Friday night is like for sandvol.