Rage Quit: Low pay, short hours are taking their toll

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Tyler Durden said:
Good for him, hopefully he doesn't get laid off in a few years. There are plenty of trade schools that provide brighter futures than the manufacturing industry.
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Have you been in a manufacturing plant lately? There are not that many monotonous “assembly line” jobs left, especially in automotive plants. Go watch a boat being manufactured, you have artist at work along with a lot of people working on tablets and computers.
 
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allvol123 said:
Are you really this ignorant?

Have you seen communities in SC, TN, Alabama, etc. around auto plants?
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I live pretty close to BMW. It’s ridiculous the number of homes being built right now and for the past few years. That said I wouldn’t want to work there but would if I had to and would make great money doing it. Luckily BMW and their suppliers aren’t the only booming businesses in the upstate.
 
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Wireless1 said:
Have you been in a manufacturing plant lately? There are not that many monotonous “assembly line” jobs left, especially in automotive plants. Go watch a boat being manufactured, you have artist at work along with a lot of people working on tablets and computers.
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you mean people aren't just sitting on the line putting one screw in a car?
 
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Wireless1 said:
Have you been in a manufacturing plant lately? There are not that many monotonous “assembly line” jobs left, especially in automotive plants. Go watch a boat being manufactured, you have artist at work along with a lot of people working on tablets and computers.
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Dude has no clue on modern manufacturing. All employees are heavily encouraged to participate in continuous improvement and join other committees.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Good for him, hopefully he doesn't get laid off in a few years. There are plenty of trade schools that provide brighter futures than the manufacturing industry.
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Many of those schools in my area offer internships through those manufacturing industries and pay for school for qualified individuals.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Yeah in the 60's. Been to Detroit recently?

Nowadays those jobs are monotonous, unfulfilling, low paying, and disappearing. No one wants to twist the same screw or or make the same cut on the same log everyday for 30 years.
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You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. There’s a Toyota plant in Georgetown, KY which is about 20 miles north of Lexington. 20-30 years ago it was a sh*thole town. Since then, it’s doubled in size and has become a very affluent community. All thanks to the investment made by Toyota. It’s lifted countless people out of poverty, and completely changed the identity of the town.
 
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BP4Prez said:
This is a really ignorant statement.

Sure they are monotonous. No one is trying to make them glamorous. But they are necessary and provide people with a good income and living.

I have an 18 year old family member working one of these jobs. Makes $19/hour while you have college grads coming out with 100k in debt making 40k/year.
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We had a shift manager working for us who left to go to Toyota. He’s 20 years old, “only” has a high school diploma, and is making close to 40k already. The dude came from an absolutely awful background. Parents were in and out of jail with serious drug problems. Being hired at Toyota literally changed the trajectory of his life. I’m sure that despite what the imbecile above thinks, he’s more than happy to be “working the line.”
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Yeah in the 60's. Been to Detroit recently?

Nowadays those jobs are monotonous, unfulfilling, low paying, and disappearing. No one wants to twist the same screw or or make the same cut on the same log everyday for 30 years.
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I don't know if you've had a job recently but the overwhelmingly majority of them involve doing the same thing every day for 30 years.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
Yeah in the 60's. Been to Detroit recently?

Nowadays those jobs are monotonous, unfulfilling, low paying, and disappearing. No one wants to twist the same screw or or make the same cut on the same log everyday for 30 years.
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A lot of those losses are due to the government changing regulations.

Environmental regulations.
Taxes.
ACA.
Zoning and other operational requirements.

The reason they spend millions to billions to move is because they cant make the same profit any more when things change outside their control.

Then you have some move because they cant get enough workers, which is why you see them partnering with some many CCs in TN and other places.

They generally want to stay but get forced into bad situations.

I would wager for every job that leaves due to greed one is lost due to other reasons.
 
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volinbham said:
Lot's of quitting going on

U.S. job openings hit record 9.3 million – but more people are quitting than ever

At the same time, a record number of people are quitting their jobs. Nearly 4 million people quit in April — double the number from just one year ago.
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This is easy to fix: If you quit a job you don't get unemployment pay, if you don't look for for work you don't get unemployment pay, if you are offered a job and decline it you don't get unemployment pay, if you are white you don't get unemployment pay because of your privilege.
That sums it up for me.
 
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Boston Vol said:
You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. There’s a Toyota plant in Georgetown, KY which is about 20 miles north of Lexington. 20-30 years ago it was a sh*thole town. Since then, it’s doubled in size and has become a very affluent community. All thanks to the investment made by Toyota. It’s lifted countless people out of poverty, and completely changed the identity of the town.
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it's a trade off. you're chaining your community to the business fortunes of one plant. Spring Hill/Columbia did take a hit when Saturn stopped production. Eventually, they got some new lines and things may be good now. But it's just a matter of time until some other community offers GM massive tax incentives to relocate and/or business fortunes necessitate plant closure. There are a lot of small towns in west TN where 30 years ago the biggest employer was an auto parts supplier who was feeding Saturn. Those towns have not recovered and are losing population while the rest of the state booms.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
it's a trade off. you're chaining your community to the business fortunes of one plant. Spring Hill/Columbia did take a hit when Saturn stopped production. Eventually, they got some new lines and things may be good now. But it's just a matter of time until some other community offers GM massive tax incentives to relocate and/or business fortunes necessitate plant closure. There are a lot of small towns in west TN where 30 years ago the biggest employer was an auto parts supplier who was feeding Saturn. Those towns have not recovered and are losing population while the rest of the state booms.
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Cycle of life.
 
#123
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
it's a trade off. you're chaining your community to the business fortunes of one plant. Spring Hill/Columbia did take a hit when Saturn stopped production. Eventually, they got some new lines and things may be good now. But it's just a matter of time until some other community offers GM massive tax incentives to relocate and/or business fortunes necessitate plant closure. There are a lot of small towns in west TN where 30 years ago the biggest employer was an auto parts supplier who was feeding Saturn. Those towns have not recovered and are losing population while the rest of the state booms.
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You mean places like Chattanooga, with a car plant.
 
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