Random, Thoughts, X,XXIV

[ArdentVol]

It was. I went through a host of problems after transplant. But I think I would have recovered a lot better over time if not for falling and breaking my back 5 months after my transplant. It wasn't even a bad fall, but they think the steroids post transplant had probably weakened my bones. Back hasn't been the same since. I can only walk like 10-15 minutes before the pain forces me to sit. Been to doctors, but nothing has really helped. And they don't want to put me on any long-term pain meds because they could harm the liver. Tylenol is all I'm allowed to take on a regular basis, and even that is limited to no more than 2000mg a day. Not that it really helps.

feel your pain
must take tylenol since i'm on blood thinners, and then there are the worsening back problems

i get minimal relief from prescription painkillers but bama is in process of allowing some cannabis products

 

[NorCalVol67]

From what I have been told *cough cough*, smoking makes it hit a lot faster, with a bigger buzz, and then it’s over. Eating is slower to hit, but it lasts a loooong time, and if you don’t like the feeling, it seems like an eternity.

My lungs make smoking a definite no, so the happy buzz doesn’t seem to be on my menu. Which is fine. Vitis vinifera seems to get the job done.

Back in college my parents needed to have a talk with me, it was a common occurrence. On one occasion before one of the talks, one of my roommates made pot brownies. He used a lot weed.

I had a couple and went for the talk. Probably not real smart. The next day after lunch I felt high again, I think the food triggered the pot that was still in my system.

 

[ArdentVol]

It can also give you anxiety.

never experienced any anxiety back in those daze

 

[NorCalVol67]

Shrooms were my favorite.

 

[theFallGuy]

Shrooms were my favorite.

We used to pick them out in Fayette county

 

[NorCalVol67]

We used to pick them out in Fayette county

Lot of cow sh*t out there.

 

[theFallGuy]

Lot of cow sh*t out there.

Not anymore they've developed everything

 

[NorCalVol67]

Not anymore they've developed everything

That was East of Eastbumfu*k when I was growing up.

 

[rocytop2624]

Some people I was hanging with back in the early 70s were smoking hash and asked me if I wanted any. I said I don’t want to smoke it and they said I could eat some. I said ok and obviously ate too much as after about 30 minutes I was genuinely convinced I was about to die. Seemed like it lasted all night.

Lol

 

[rocytop2624]

Shrooms were my favorite.

Me too Man.

 

[rocytop2624]

never experienced any anxiety back in those daze

I didn't when I was young heck we would rip 5' bong hits and laugh are asses off.

 

[rocytop2624]

And there are so many other side effects (serious constipation, brain fog, respiratory depression.)

I’m ok with the idea of being dependent or addicted in my last few years, but I would want to feel reasonably ok along with the pain relief. Cannabis (when tolerated) seems way better than opiates. Also, the few times I’ve taken (prescribed) oxycodone etc., I was miserable, no real pain relief, other than a slight dulling, instead of a sharper pain. When I could make a sentence, I said that I still hurt and was in misery, I just couldn’t express it.

But this is something that each of us has to decide for ourselves.

There is alot to be said about being able to live free and not need nothing but food and water. That is true freedom. There is a bunch of addicts that are good people that dream of that feeling.

 

[GordonC]

Back in college my parents needed to have a talk with me, it was a common occurrence. On one occasion before one of the talks, one of my roommates made pot brownies. He used a lot weed.

I had a couple and went for the talk. Probably not real smart. The next day after lunch I felt high again, I think the food triggered the pot that was still in my system.

sí señor

 

[GordonC]

We used to pick them out in Fayette county

WTF
@joevol33

 

[508mikey]

No opioids if that's what you're asking. Doctors do not like prescribing addictive meds.

Thank the druggies for that Ruined it for people that need them

 

[Orangeslice13]

Thank the druggies for that Ruined it for people that need them

Opioids are bad ****. They make druggies out of normal people. There’s got to be a better way. But there’s no money for the pharmaceutical companies in the better way.

 

[GordonC]

Thank the druggies for that Ruined it for people that need them

absolutely correct
people on Medicaid paying nothing and selling them
It should pi$$ off everyone

 

[NorCalVol67]

Opioids are bad ****. They make druggies out of normal people. There’s got to be a better way. But there’s no money for the pharmaceutical companies in the better way.

Yep.

 

[VolNExile]

Thank the druggies for that Ruined it for people that need them

A lot of those “druggies” were everyday people like you and me who were prescribed opiates (which were literally PUSHED by the drug manufacturers to doctors) for legitimate medical and surgical issues, and who became addicted after a very short time. I remember having to argue with a surgeon when I wanted to switch off to milder meds 2-3 days post-op. He was completely bewildered why anyone didn’t want their hydros and oxys.

Addiction to opiates is a physical thing, including physical pain when you try to quit. It’s not always people looking for the wheeeeee bit. Please, Mikey, have some compassion for those whose lives were destroyed so that Purdue Pharma and friends could make some extra bucks.

 

[GordonC]

Former student of mine lost a dam leg in Afghanistan in service of this country
Doctors tried, after 3 or 4 years of dilaudid (translation: pharmaceutical heroin), to force him off all pain medicines
I say give him the dam meds

 

[GordonC]

A lot of those “druggies” were everyday people like you and me who were prescribed opiates (which were literally PUSHED by the drug manufacturers to doctors) for legitimate medical and surgical issues, and who became addicted after a very short time. I remember having to argue with a surgeon when I wanted to switch off to milder meds 2-3 days post-op. He was completely bewildered why anyone didn’t want their hydros and oxys.

Addiction to opiates is a physical thing, including physical pain when you try to quit. It’s not always people looking for the wheeeeee bit. Please, Mikey, have some compassion for those whose lives were destroyed so that Purdue Pharma and friends could make some extra bucks.

The big pharma was the problem, and the Medicaid business around here at least is very real as well.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Former student of mine lost a dam leg in Afghanistan in service of this country
Doctors tried, after 3 or 4 years of dilaudid (translation: pharmaceutical heroin), to force him off all pain medicines
I say give him the dam meds

Move to Colorado where weed is legal.

 

[NorCalVol67]

If I had my sh*t together in college, I had the opportunity to go into pharmaceutical sales after I graduated. I worked for a healthcare company part time while in college.

I would have made a lot of money, but I’m glad it didn’t work out.

 

[VolNExile]

The big pharma was the problem, and the Medicaid business around here at least is very real as well.

Sure, but Medicaid didn’t get them addicted.

Someone is providing these pills, and there’s a market for them, because someone helped get them addicted. This didn’t just fall out of the sky.

 

[VolNExile]

If I had my sh*t together in college, I had the opportunity to go into pharmaceutical sales after I graduated. I worked for a healthcare company part time while in college.

I would have made a lot of money, but I’m glad it didn’t work out.

What did you get your degree in? I don’t remember ever seeing this.