Rank the 5 best coaches in the SEC

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gogators01uf said:
by the way, here is my top 5, and i'm looking at overall record as sec head coaches.

1) urban meyer. What he's done so far is amazing by any standards. 2 bcs and 2 sec titles. See my comments above.

2) nick saban. See my comments above.

3) les miles. I;m going to get hell for this, but i'm sticking with it. He won a national title with saban's players, but he still won.

4) houston nutt - led arkansas to winning seasons and an sec title appearance. Ressurected (somewhat) a struggling ole miss program.

5) steve spurrier. I'm, including his florida record here as well. He's faded somewhat, but has shown signs of brilliance lately.

Receiving votes:
Mark richt, kiffin, chizik

reason i left kiffin and chizik off my list is because they haven't coached but one year. Kiffin did an outstanding job, imo, and will prove to be on this list shortly. It's hard to judge them now because they only coached 12 games thus far.

1) meyer.
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Here we go again... OK... urbie won his first NC with Zook's players. After that.. in the state of florida.. I could build on that. Saban has done waaaay more than urbie on a comparative basis to include recruiting. (Not to mention that he has had fewer guys in jail)

As for the hypeman trophy, I think you will find that few in the entire state of Tennessee gives a rat's a$$ about it since the great screwjob. It's about as meaningful as the Nobel Peace Prize or American idol.
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Amen brother!
 
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1.Monte Kiffin
2.Nick Saban
3.Urban Meyer
4.Lane Kiffin
5.Ed Orgeron
6.Charlie Strong
7.John Chavis
8.Bobby Petrino
9.Mark Richt
10.Trooper Taylor

IMHO obviously they're not all HC's and I'm putting them in the order I would pick them in a overall coaching draft from the SEC
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cotton said:
It still baffles me that anyone can believe this. He had a losing record at Orgeon. He has a losing record at Kentucky. He is 16-40 in 7 years in the SEC. He has gone .500 in the conference exactly once. He has finished better than 5th in the division exactly twice.

Kentucky's recent "success" comes from a combination of adding a 12th game against Eastern, dropping powerhouse Indiana, and the fact that Louisville stinks again.



Really? I'm having a hard time finding a worse one.
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yeah, I wasn't going off any stats which are pretty devastating. can't disagree with you. I thought he had done well with nothing. It just seems like Kentucky has not been a pushover since he has been there.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Here we go again... OK... urbie won his first NC with Zook's players. After that.. in the state of florida.. I could build on that. Saban has done waaaay more than urbie on a comparative basis to include recruiting. (Not to mention that he has had fewer guys in jail)

As for the hypeman trophy, I think you will find that few in the entire state of Tennessee gives a rat's a$$ about it since the great screwjob. It's about as meaningful as the Nobel Peace Prize or American idol.
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Saban also inherited some good players as well. I'm not saying Saban doesn't deserve to be first, just curious as to everyone's thoughts and why... just trying to encourage some thought out discussions.

Edit: As for the Heisman, I agree that Peyton deserved it that year.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
Saban also inherited some good players as well. I'm not saying Saban doesn't deserve to be first, just curious as to everyone's thoughts and why... just trying to encourage some thought out discussions.
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For the record, I have a hard time ranking anybody above a guy who has won 2 out of the last 3 national championships and who may be on his way to a 3rd in his 5th year on the job.
 
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GahLee said:
Was he really the leader of that '06 team?

I don't know, serious question for the Gator on here.
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Leak was the leader of that team, and a surprising leader. He was always a soft spoken kid with tremendous talent. Urban made him take the reigns his senior year and forced him to come out of his shell. He did a hell of a job, IMO.

You can't take away what Tebow did either. You guys would have beaten us if it wasn't for that 4th down conversion.
 
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I'm glad to see Brooks on some people's list. He has done an amazing job at Kentucky. Anyone that can take Kentucky to 3 straight bowl games (winning all of them) and beating Auburn (at Auburn) and Georgia (at Georgia) has to be a great coach.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
And my fear is that many Gator fans will expect this and eventually drive Meyer away. It happened with Spurrier. I think with any fan base in this age, though, that when you win it's expected from here on out.
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Apparently urbie doesn't think so or he'd be smart and head for South Bend... If I were in his shoes I certainly would. He'll be a legend on his own there.. in gainesburg he will always be tied to tebow
 
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cotton said:
For the record, I have a hard time ranking anybody above a guy who has won 2 out of the last 3 national championships and who may be on his way to a 3rd in his 5th year on the job.
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Saban won at Michigan State (and beat the Gators in what was then called the Citrus bowl). He went to LSU and resurrected that program (think of what they were in the 90's) and won big there. After a somewhat unsuccessful stint with the 'Phins, he took over at Bama and won. He will win a BCS title there, it's only a matter of time...and could very well be this year.
 
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jed said:
I'm glad to see Brooks on some people's list. He has done an amazing job at Kentucky. Anyone that can take Kentucky to 3 straight bowl games (winning all of them) and beating Auburn (at Auburn) and Georgia (at Georgia) has to be a great coach.
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No.

See post #147.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
Saban also inherited some good players as well. I'm not saying Saban doesn't deserve to be first, just curious as to everyone's thoughts and why... just trying to encourage some thought out discussions.
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They both have done a great job thus far, someone mentioned Urban landing in " perfect storm " so to speak and I can see that, a lot of thing have to go your way to be successful.

It's not like Nick is at Miss. St and has them on the brink of a SEC title, it's Alabama. His reputation and the schools reputation will bring success. Not like any of this is surprising.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Apparently urbie doesn't think so or he'd be smart and head for South Bend... If I were in his shoes I certainly would. He'll be a legend on his own there.. in gainesburg he will always be tied to tebow
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That has yet to be determined. If he can win (and I know he will, just not to this extent) Post Tebow, then he won't be forever tied to one player.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
Saban won at Michigan State (and beat the Gators in what was then called the Citrus bowl). He went to LSU and resurrected that program (think of what they were in the 90's) and won big there. After a somewhat unsuccessful stint with the 'Phins, he took over at Bama and won. He will win a BCS title there, it's only a matter of time...and could very well be this year.
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I know what Saban has done. If he does it again, there's a pretty good argument. If the world stopped today, though, how do you rank him above Meyer?
 
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GoGators01uf said:
Leak was the leader of that team, and a surprising leader. He was always a soft spoken kid with tremendous talent. Urban made him take the reigns his senior year and forced him to come out of his shell. He did a hell of a job, IMO.

You can't take away what Tebow did either. You guys would have beaten us if it wasn't for that 4th down conversion.
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And the terrible roughing the passer call, admit it, that was bogus.

Pick 6 by Mayo turns into a field goal by Florida after that sorry-ass call.
 
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cotton said:
I know what Saban has done. If he does it again, there's a pretty good argument. If the world stopped today, though, how do you rank him above Meyer?
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I'll admit I'm biased and agree with you. I rank Meyer at the 1 spot. Kinda makes you wonder "what if" Saban stayed at LSU... Would he have had this kind of success that Meyer has? Would he have won multiple BCS titles?
 
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GahLee said:
They both have done a great job thus far, someone mentioned Urban landing in " perfect storm " so to speak and I can see that, a lot of thing have to go your way to be successful.

It's not like Nick is at Miss. St and has them on the brink of a SEC title, it's Alabama. His reputation and the schools reputation will bring success. Not like any of this is surprising.
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That was me. I still say Urbs a good coach, but the next few years will take the shine off.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
Ok, who's on your list?
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I generally don't participate in popularity contests of this nature since they are subjective in nature, and opinions are like... But, I think Bobby Bowden is/was the best coach in the state of FL, and for your boy to ever trump that ace, he will have to be a gator for a looong time. And THAT is doubtful as you intimated. Bobby BUILT that program. urbie just inherited and maintained FU, and painted the front porch. And the kicker IMO, Bowden has more class than urbie could ever hope to have although I think the number of felons are similar. I think THAT has as much to do with the state of FL as the coach.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
I'll admit I'm biased and agree with you. I rank Meyer at the 1 spot. Kinda makes you wonder "what if" Saban stayed at LSU... Would he have had this kind of success that Meyer has? Would he have won multiple BCS titles?
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Let me put it this way--I believe that Nick Saban would have had equal or better success at LSU over the past 5 seasons than Les Miles, who has a NC.

I was not counting speculative or pretend national titles in my ranking, though.
 
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GoGators01uf said:
To be honest with you... I don't remember that :blush:
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Jerod Mayo had a pick 6 called back because of a supposed roughing the passer penalty, I think it was J.T. Mapu, not sure, anyway, looked as though a Florida lineman pushed him into the QB, Mapu had his hands up the whole time. It negated the pick 6, Florida drove down the field and got a field goal, the rest is history.
 
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GahLee said:
Jerod Mayo had a pick 6 called back because of a supposed roughing the passer penalty, I think it was J.T. Mapu, not sure, anyway, looked as though a Florida lineman pushed him into the QB, Mapu had his hands up the whole time. It negated the pick 6, Florida drove down the field and got a field goal, the rest is history.
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All lizard fans remember is the score. They prefer to forget the bullcrap calls that gave it to them.
 
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