Recruiting Football Talk VII

[UTSuave’]

These dudes would sh!t themselves if they walked into a bar these days.

it’s like Amsterdam but with divorced wives and daughters with daddy issues..but mostly cheaters

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Eat breakfast like a king
Eat lunch like a queen
Eat dinner like a pauper

If you get your calories during the day in that order, easy way to lose weight.

Just lost 31 pounds in 6 weeks the old fashioned way...just completely cut carbs out of my diet.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

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I've concluded over the years of reading your posts you don't know much about Tennessee football or basketball history. If we win 25 games, that will be one of the 10 best seasons we have ever had in 116 seasons of playing the sport... Also, Rick Barnes has produced most of our really good seasons.

I mean, I expect teams to compete for championships. When you're pre season top 10, and you are picked to win the league and you win nothing, it's pretty disappointing.

 

[UTSuave’]

She’s sitting on his lap. He had his hand on her butt. She doesn’t seem like she is bothered. No big deal. As far as his wife thing; who knows they don’t have an open relationship? They are still together.

All normal…In 2023.can confirm

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I mean, I expect teams to compete for championships. When you're pre season top 10, and you are picked to win the league and you win nothing, it's pretty disappointing.

But we do? Basketball just isn't football. It's wide open in March and if you're in the dance you're competing for the championship. No one would hate on Heupel if he made 5 playoffs in 8 seasons.

 

[volbeast33]

But we do? Basketball just isn't football. It's wide open in March and if you're in the dance you're competing for the championship. No one would hate on Heupel if he made 5 playoffs in 8 seasons.

they might if the playoffs keep expanding.

 

[mrMet]

In all fairness he was a HOF coach before he arrived here we can’t keep doing this .he earned it on his own through 500 years of coaching..now he’s solidifying it here.

Yes he was, but besides Bruce’s short time, Vols basketball has never been relevant in my short life until Rick.

Hell I remember being excited seeing Buzz Peterson (awful) in the high school stands in my hometown when he came to watch Tyler Smith beat the hell out of our high school

 

[mr.checkerboards]

But we do? Basketball just isn't football. It's wide open in March and if you're in the dance you're competing for the championship. No one would hate on Heupel if he made 5 playoffs in 8 seasons.

Just making the dance isn't competing for a championship, making runs is.

And yeah if Heupel made the playoffs and got bounced early by a lower ranked teams 3 times and then made the last 4( I go 4 here because the playoffs are smaller) people would be ready to find someone who can get over the hump.

 

[ob79]

No my point is, I believe with competent leadership and actual support, a good AD can find another coach who can accomplish what Barnes has done.
That's why I call for him getting fired, I want DW to prove to you all that there are other coaches out there that can do what Barnes has done with competent leadership.

This was the exact argument we all used to oust Fulmer, biggest difference was (obviously) that Fulmer seemed to lose a step towards the end of his career. However, it's NEVER as easy as "having competent leadership" to replace the accomplishments of a successful, tenured head coach--in any sport.

Barnes' lack of success in the post-season is well documented and, at times, extremely frustrating but he has built a culture within the basketball program that has only been matched by Pearl and Mears. Like the football program Post-Fulmer, I think anyone we might try to replace him with would have a monumental task of even living up to the success Barnes has had. Barnes can retire here, imo.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Mind blowing. I don't understand it. The same thing is happening with Heupel. The old saying is "You need to be down to appreciate up". Hell, we've been down -- a long time.

Some people just suck..

Fify

 

[Orange.]

The hate it when you bring up this point.
One would think being around for so long, he would've gotten lucky at some point.

Just hang on, checkerb ! Something good is going to happen.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

The Irish sounding guy (or maybe Welsh?)…the fifth one.

You're more of a calm upset, but your words cut like knives. I was the second guy in my early years. Became #4 during Dooley/Jones years. Became #5 during Pruitt years.

 

[volbeast33]

This was the exact argument we all used to oust Fulmer, biggest difference was (obviously) that Fulmer seemed to lose a step towards the end of his career. However, it's NEVER as easy as "having competent leadership" to replace the accomplishments of a successful, tenured head coach--in any sport.

Barnes' lack of success in the post-season is well documented and, at times, extremely frustrating but he has built a culture within the basketball program that has only been matched by Pearl and Mears. Like the football program Post-Fulmer, I think anyone we might try to replace him with would have a monumental task of even living up to the success Barnes has had. Barnes can retire here, imo.

It wasn’t a mistake to let Fulmer go…. It was a mistake to let mike Hamilton hire his replacement…. This administration is the number one reason we are good in almost all sports…. we will carry on when Barnes leaves.

 

[Glitch]

SEC be like....

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Have you ever ventured over to the basketball forum? If you don't praise him to death you get chastised.

Can you go get chastised over there then?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

This was the exact argument we all used to oust Fulmer, biggest difference was (obviously) that Fulmer seemed to lose a step towards the end of his career. However, it's NEVER as easy as "having competent leadership" to replace the accomplishments of a successful, tenured head coach--in any sport.

Barnes' lack of success in the post-season is well documented and, at times, extremely frustrating but he has built a culture within the basketball program that has only been matched by Pearl and Mears. Like the football program Post-Fulmer, I think anyone we might try to replace him with would have a monumental task of even living up to the success Barnes has had. Barnes can retire here, imo.

But we didn't have competent leadership then.
TN wasn't good at any sport under Hamilton. Hell panic hiring Derek Dooley should've told you Hamilton was an idiot.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Can you go get chastised over there then?

Actually I can't, I'm not allowed over there.

 

[butchna]

 

[ob79]

It wasn’t a mistake to let Fulmer go…. It was a mistake to let mike Hamilton hire his replacement…. This administration is the number one reason we are good in almost all sports…. we will carry on when Barnes leaves.

Agreed on all points, but that wasn't my point--just pointing out that it's taken the better part of two decades to match the success and recover from ousting him in favor of Kiffin, Dooley, Butch, and JP.

****** admin notwithstanding, and hindsight being 20/20, I'd have rather kept Fulmer around than have to have gone through those four dipshIts.

 

[knoxvol52]

Actually I can't, I'm not allowed over there.

Wonder why

 

[UTSuave’]

This looks like best team Barnes has had here, we just beat a top 5 team on the road without two of our best players, the season hasn’t even started yet, and people in here are already fahrin’ Barnes.

Just another day in paradise!

So just to be clear you’re on the record stating that this team is better than the grant Williams and admiral Schofield starting lineup

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Just making the dance isn't competing for a championship, making runs is.

And yeah if Heupel made the playoffs and got bounced early by a lower ranked teams 3 times and then made the last 4( I go 4 here because the playoffs are smaller) people would be ready to find someone who can get over the hump.

It is, if you're not in the dance you have 0% chance of winning the championship. Baseball AND Basketball you HAVE TO MAKE THE DANCE to compete...that's how tournaments work.

It's one thing to troll, but do you really want to continue to look like an idiot while doing it?

I mean you're basically the biggest fair weather fan around and the worst part is you're pretty ignorant about basketball in general so you drag your over the top expectations into basketball with a football mindset. Only one game counts more than the rest in basketball, the last one you play in March, but you have to make the dance still for that to be the case.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Actually I can't, I'm not allowed over there.

 

[Orange.]

I dont care what he's waiting on, but apparently most of this board gets butthurt because I don't think he walks on water.

It's not a matter of walking on water, checkerb. Don't make this something that it's not.

I think Barnes will get some much better finishes in the 'AA tournament, and that will set us up splendidly for his successor one day. Discarding him, not only is unmerited, imo, but would be massively imprudent with respect to landing whomever would be best that he will one day be replaced by. We would look, imo, like a toxic culture.

I normally might go off, but, instead, I think I should meet you halfway and counsel patience at the worst in the near term and a huge upside if this ends the way a lot of us think it will. We want to celebrate Barnes and have the whole sport celebrate him when he decides to retire. I think that's smart. And I think he is making bigger strides all the time. If he might be a reluctant mind with respect to the portal (that has been alleged, but idk if it's true), I think we all have to admit he has certainly adjusted quickly and is flat rocking the portal!

I think his best days are still ahead.

 

[ob79]

Makes perfect sense...I know I look to go fight the pastor every time I go to the Alter to pray.