Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Compared to the Dooley-Butch-Pruitt years? Yeah, it sure does.

Absolutely. But compared to last year? It just depends on what you look at. I think we have gotten worse in many areas and it’s not just player turnover. But player turnover is way easier to deal with now than before with the portal.

 

[VolNash17]

UT is investing in personnel, facilities, player amenities and fan experience at a high level. We have a strong admin, a committed AD and a sports-friendly president. That has not always been the case, but when it has been, UT has excelled. Randy Boyd is not a career administrator. He wants to make UT an elite everything school before he moves on. Football is the engine. Ticket prices are up. Fan support is strong. You do not invest at this level to be content where we are. This year did not go as expected. Things happened. Miscalculations were made. Finish strong and get back on track. The resources are there... and so is the support.

Perfect! Thanks for your insight.

 

[Big Orange#1]

I need to teach my son to become a fired football coach when he grows up

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

It's less people think 8-4 is "great", and more people don't think 8-4 is the end of the world, OMG, we need to put Heupel on the hot seat.

I don’t think anyone has said that. And no one wants that. That’s stiring the pot.

It’s saying we have issues when you get blown out by UF and Mizzou and it needs fixing.

 

[Weezer]

I need to teach my son to become a fired football coach when he grows up

It used to be backup punter, but now it's fired football coach.

 

[MarcoVol]

Why would they hire Heupel? What has he done that would get them over an Orange bowl win in 2021 over UNC and 8-4 seasons they’re accustomed to?

We’re in Y3 dude get a grip.

 

[Volunteer21]

Yes.

Do you see it on offense side of ball? I know a lot have said defense side

 

[VolNash17]

I don’t think anyone has said that. And no one wants that. That’s stiring the pot.

It’s saying we have issues when you get blown out by UF and Mizzou and it needs fixing.

Bingo

 

[drvenner]

Freeze (for all his faults) is a good cosch

He was top of my list when Pruitt was fired

Glad we got Heupel though - I’m good with him, don’t get me wrong

I would never want Freeze anywhere near our program.

 

[MarcoVol]

If youre AM, do you throw the bank at Lance Leipold?

He’s a great coach. Making roughly $5M per year and we know they can easily top that.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

UT is investing in personnel, facilities, player amenities and fan experience at a high level. We have a strong admin, a committed AD and a sports-friendly president. That has not always been the case, but when it has been, UT has excelled. Randy Boyd is not a career administrator. He wants to make UT an elite everything school before he moves on. Football is the engine. Ticket prices are up. Fan support is strong. You do not invest at this level to be content where we are. This year did not go as expected. Things happened. Miscalculations were made. Finish strong and get back on track. The resources are there... and so is the support.

Randy Boyd has a financial incentive to make TN good at everything. Im not saying thats a bad thing, just good motivation.

 

[volbeast33]

Does it feel like we’re growing?

very much so…We had 3 wins four seasons ago…We lost several to the NFL last season…. Recruiting seems to be getting better every year…. i am concerned about OL recruiting though.

 

[Adam Sandler]

How does this keep happening over and over and over. Craziness.

Random idea that doesn’t fix the problem:

What if the goalline pylons had sensors in them that created an invisible 6 foot tall plane on the goalline, and the ball was painted with invisible and indetectable to touch substance that would upon breaking the plane either light up on the ball or signal to the pylons to light up, signifying an undebatable touchdown (barring no knees down beforehand, to be reviewed if necessary). And somehow the ball would need to know it’s still in the hands of the ball carrier or it wouldn’t signal, so no passes, punts, fumbles would signal.

This is in the world 2030, where Tennessee has also won back to back to back to back college football playoffs.

 

[Jackcrevol]

@LA Vol

I sense Heupel is frustrated with being screwed over and over by the SEC and their officials. I also sense his silent protest hasn't gone over too well with some UT administration. Is this true? If so does Heupel feel like they don't have his back? The screw job is so bad it's becoming so blatantly obvious at this point its comical.

i'm not a conspiracist. but if there is indeed, because of our season last year. because of up tempo football...and it can be proven.

I would call Marcos Garza in a milisecond.

I joke about Marcos a lot. but my fam knows him, says he is a really smart guy, and a damn good attorney, and a VFL. Certainly there is someone at the law school who can start an investigation...lol

i'm over this ********.

 

[Weezer]

Not that I think he's their best option, but I'd laugh hysterically if TAMU just hired FSU's coach again, forcing them to start all over.

 

[VolNash17]

Not that I think he's their best option, but I'd laugh hysterically if TAMU just hired FSU's coach again, forcing them to start all over.

That would be funny

 

[Weezer]

i'm not a conspiracist. but if there is indeed, because of our season last year. because of up tempo football...and it can be proven.

I would call Marcos Garza in a milisecond.

Sounds like you need to go ahead and call him because you're obviously already drunk.

 

[LA Vol]

@LA Vol

I sense Heupel is frustrated with being screwed over and over by the SEC and their officials. I also sense his silent protest hasn't gone over too well with some UT administration. Is this true? If so does Heupel feel like they don't have his back? The screw job is so bad it's becoming so blatantly obvious at this point its comical.

I'm sure everybody's frustrated. CJH clearly is and his silent protest is not unsupported-- it's a way to make a point without getting fined, which everybody knows would happen. I think the team's performance makes it difficult for UT to take it beyond the weekly reports and calls. When the team plays so poorly and looks that discombobulated and unmotivated in all facets, it's hard to point a finger at officiating, even if it is contributory.

UT knows it has to win on the field. For whatever reason-- and there are way too many of them-- UT sometimes looks like a bad football team. We have to fix our own problems, since that's what the team can control.

 

[Devo182]

Stress and pressure doesn’t come from just fans. He was literally mentally ill towards the end of his time at Florida

There's basically a direct correlation between number and insaneness of fans to the pressure of a coaching job.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Sounds like you need to go ahead and call him because you're obviously already drunk.

huh? i mean, there may have been a few bourbon vanilla cream ales lats night

 

[turdherder11]

Nico's RS status is of no consequence.

This staff's philosophy is to play older, experienced players and develop talent behind them. They're playing the guys they want to play. CJH decided pre-season that Joe was their guy and he has reiterated this all year. Injuries have impacted their plan somewhat, but they convinced some of these older guys to come back and they're playing them.

Let's not forget Milton has been JH's "guy" since arriving on campus. Had it not been for the injury vs WV there wouldn't have been a great 22 season. JH would be in different boat right now had it not been for Joe's injury and Hendo playing too good to pull. Interesting to think about, one injury changed everything, football is a crazy sport.

 

[Adam Sandler]

If youre AM, do you throw the bank at Lance Leipold?

I suggested this a few comments back. I don’t think they’d even need to throw the bank. He’d be my first call if I’m them.

 

[butchna]

Pittman can recruit. If we had elarbee and Pittman working on OL, hard to imagine we can’t get premier talent on the OL, which we desperately need to be not one dimensional on offense.

He can recruit 5 stars at UGA…nowhere else. If he’s looking for a stopgap job before a top program inevitably tabs him as their OL coach, I’m not throwing my internet body in front of the move, but buying him a summer home won’t do anything to get big uglies on board who were otherwise reluctant. And what do you mean “one dimensional “? From the beginning, we were run oriented. A more instinctive QB unlocks that hyped explosive passing offense that’s inherent in Heupel’s scheme. If we merely retain who Ellarbee’s got committed, our OL is immensely upgraded. Land Seaton and moreso.

 

[drvenner]

We, like almost all fan-bases, have so many fair weather fans. They seem to forget the entire history of our program, especially since 2005, and act like petulant children when we don't meet THEIR expectations. They forget 11-2 and finishing in the Top 10. The thing is, the weather this year is still pretty fair. If we finish 9-4, that's tied for the 3rd best season since 2005 and sixth best season if we finish 8-5. One game does not make a trend. As someone mentioned, we are 6-7 on the road since CJH came here. And, that's with going to Bama and Florida twice and Georgia once. Yesterday sucked. 25 out of 35 of our previous yesterdays did not suck. Sack up, ya big babies.

 

[Weezer]

I'm sure everybody's frustrated. CJH clearly is and his silent protest is not unsupported-- it's a way to make a point without getting fined, which everybody knows would happen. I think the team's performance makes it difficult for UT to take it beyond the weekly reports and calls. When the team plays so poorly and looks that discombobulated and unmotivated in all facets, it's hard to point a finger at officiating, even if it is contributory.

UT knows it has to win on the field. For whatever reason-- and there are way too many of them-- UT sometimes looks like a bad football team. We have to fix our own problems, since that's what the team can control.

If this officiating carries into next season, I say we torch the SEC offices in Birmingham.