Recruiting Football Talk VII

[mr.checkerboards]

College football really sucks now, doesn’t it? What a putrid idea.

I mean I got called a troll for pointing this stuff out. It was always going to go down this road, or be set up like a minor league system.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

College football really sucks now, doesn’t it? What a putrid idea.

What surprises me is that CBB isn't worse, yet at least. With all thr AAU handlers out there I would think it would be a bigger problem there.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

So crowd source from the regular people the money that big boosters with real money used to pay players for performance.

Player A: Makes big play, his Venmo goes up on screen. People get excited, donate a few dollars.

Player A: A few plays later, fumbles the ball/throws INT, costs his team the game, people use his Venmo to flood his handle with requests for their money back and to harass him.

Just one idea off the top of my head of how poorly this could immediately go. Also just feels gross having fans watching the game who probably paid a pretty penny to attend the game being flooded with more requests to spend even more money.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but this Venmo idea just feels gross. There are other ways to donate.

 

[MarcoVol]

I mean I got called a troll for pointing this stuff out. It was always going to go down this road, or be set up like a minor league system.

People could just choose not to pay. I think it’s stupid but it’s literally letting the market decide

 

[mr.checkerboards]

College football really sucks now, doesn’t it? What a putrid idea.

The other thing. Dave Clawson was right, you have a SR day for a guy you rented for 9 months. DJ U writes a goodbye letter that calls himself for ever a beaver when he's been there 15 minutes.

It's insanity.

 

[BigSteve09]

This is called peer pressure.

We really should be thankful as a fanbase to have Spyre and the VC.

There are so many programs and shoddy collectives that have no idea wtf they are doing. Just throwing crap like this against the wall because they have no idea how to build, maintain and operate a true collective in this day and age.

Then you have the governing bodies trying to reinsert themselves in any way possible because they see how much money there is and they want their cut.

We're lucky to have the folks we do. I hope we all fight like hell to maintain the advantage that we have while other programs work to limit that advantage or flail about with money asking how do they do NIL.

 

[MarcoVol]

Player A: Makes big play, his Venmo goes up on screen. People get excited, donate a few dollars.

Player A: A few plays later, fumbles the ball/throws INT, costs his team the game, people use his Venmo to flood his handle with requests for their money back and to harass him.

Just one idea off the top of my head of how poorly this could immediately go. Also just feels gross having fans watching the game who probably paid a pretty penny to attend the game being flooded with more requests to spend even more money.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but this Venmo idea just feels gross. There are other ways to donate.

I don’t disagree.

But people can just choose not to pay.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

People could just choose not to pay. I think it’s stupid but it’s literally letting the market decide

Mookie pointed out the disaster behind it, but my issue is once again it's just hurting the fans pockets, at some point this money needs to come from the schools.

 

[KptVFL]

I could’ve swore our recruiting sucked a*s according to the board experts on recruiting

Lol!

Lots of

hand wringers!

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I don’t disagree.

But people can just choose not to pay.

Sure. But it’s just the continued, slow decline of college football. First, it’s this Venmo idea on the screen, then it’s something else. It’s never just one thing. I don’t mind players being able to profit off their NIL, but I just find the way we’re going about this gross.

I don’t have the solution. But this Venmo idea just sucks.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Player A: Makes big play, his Venmo goes up on screen. People get excited, donate a few dollars.

Player A: A few plays later, fumbles the ball/throws INT, costs his team the game, people use his Venmo to flood his handle with requests for their money back and to harass him.

Just one idea off the top of my head of how poorly this could immediately go. Also just feels gross having fans watching the game who probably paid a pretty penny to attend the game being flooded with more requests to spend even more money.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but this Venmo idea just feels gross. There are other ways to donate.

I love this idea but the money goes into escrow. You get donations when you do good but the fan can take funds out when you eff up. Beatiful.

 

[KptVFL]

Odd that we invited him in the first place if we weren’t really sold on his skillset.

Have to think it has something to do with how much he thinks he's worth.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I love this idea but the money goes into escrow. You get donations when you do good but the fan can take funds out when you eff up. Beatiful.

That also feels like a situation rife for abuse and pointless. I just think this donate directly to the player idea is dumb. I have no problem with setting up a shop in Neyland that sells “Orange Juice Wells” where people can buy special bottles of OJ and a cut of the profits goes right to Juice Wells. That’s called sponsorship and that’s how it should be done and it’s how professionals do it.

But donating to players and then taking money away when they do poorly? We might as well shutter the sport if that’s the direction we’re headed towards.

 

[triadvolfan]

Player A: Makes big play, his Venmo goes up on screen. People get excited, donate a few dollars.

Player A: A few plays later, fumbles the ball/throws INT, costs his team the game, people use his Venmo to flood his handle with requests for their money back and to harass him.

Just one idea off the top of my head of how poorly this could immediately go. Also just feels gross having fans watching the game who probably paid a pretty penny to attend the game being flooded with more requests to spend even more money.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but this Venmo idea just feels gross. There are other ways to donate.

Right. Also, the fans are also in no position to tell whose making plays.

A receiver scores a TD on a screen do you fans pay him or the 2 receivers that laid great blocks to spring him?

Another player spends the whole game out of their rushing lane giving up big run plays to the QB but finally gets a sack and gets paid for it. Or a safety gets beat deep trying to bait a QB into a throw to try for a pick but gets one later on and gets a payment.

I could really see it incentivizing selfishness by the players and them getting paid for doing things that are detrimental to the team. .

 

[Glitch]

I played golf today and shot a personal best 68! 4 under!!

First time ever in the 60s. PR before was 70.

I am just pumped. Can’t stop thinking about it. Lol

I know, cool story bro.

What's the punchline?

 

[Ashevolle]

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[CAVPUT]

So crowd source from the regular people the money that big boosters with real money used to pay players for performance.

Kinda funny how the support to "get paid" fades just a wee bit when the money comes from our pockets instead of those who "are rich and can afford it". Folks always insist the deep pockets step up and fund things but when it's their money not so much.

 

[csprig9]

Not a chance
CJH and elarbee can’t recruit I was told

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[jave36]

If you can't do it at Miami, how would you do it at Duke?

It's like Muschamp going from Florida to south Carolina. Same conference, harder job.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Seems like a bad hire.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That also feels like a situation rife for abuse and pointless. I just think this donate directly to the player idea is dumb. I have no problem with setting up a shop in Neyland that sells “Orange Juice Wells” where people can buy special bottles of OJ and a cut of the profits goes right to Juice Wells. That’s called sponsorship and that’s how it should be done and it’s how professionals do it.

But donating to players and then taking money away when they do poorly? We might as well shutter the sport if that’s the direction we’re headed towards.

Oh, I'm in agreement but if they're doing it, I want them to go full Rick Flair. I think it should be a live bar graph showing the numbers going up and down.

 

[rikberry31]

To be fair, FSU was named the National Champs with one loss over an undefeated Nebraska in 1993.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Kinda funny how the support to "get paid" fades just a wee bit when the money comes from our pockets instead of those who "are rich and can afford it". Folks always insist the deep pockets step up and fund things but when it's their money not so much.

It has nothing to do with taking money from regular people. Donating to Spyre is fine. Buying t-shirts and sponsored merch is fine. There are a lot of things that I’m okay with. Throwing a gigantic QR code up on the Jumbotron and asking people to donate directly after every big play feels ridiculous and contrary to what makes sports great.

 

[therickbol]

The Mincey thing is a totally made up rumor. He played well this season, no reason to get rid of a solid RT

It is not rumor. There were facts that shared. Did some of those facts grow legs and spread with additional info? That is possible. But he absolutely had "representatives" giving him bad advice and he had more than one meeting with the coaching staff regarding his feelings about what position he should be playing.