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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
It’s idiotic to say we are what our record is. Our record is indicative of our bad hires. Not what our program is or should be. I guess Texas was a bad program and should have stayed that way for a bad run a few years ago. No, they said we are better than this and spent the money to be good again.
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We were one loss away last year from achieving the same thing rhey did this year. Let's see how they fare under a full SEC schedule year in and year out before we cosing a coaching change.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
It’s idiotic to say we are what our record is. Our record is indicative of our bad hires. Not what our program is or should be. I guess Texas was a bad program and should have stayed that way for a bad run a few years ago. No, they said we are better than this and spent the money to be good again.
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You've worsened your fallacy. You've moved from "we should be what we used to be" (with no analysis of the differences between the two and what needs to be done with current resources to get there), to "we should be what TX has been" (with no analysis of the differences between the situation of the two).

You can't escape the fact that expectations should be based on what the program is dealing with *right now* (i.e. current rosters, handicaps, etc), as opposed to the level of success you used to be used to, and most especially as opposed to *completely different teams*!

This should be critical thinking 101.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
If you haven’t noticed, they have won much more than us in football even in down years and they don’t accept mediocrity. Napier will be gone next season and they will go big.
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In case you haven't noticed, you used the fact that they are in a position to once again be recycling their staff as some sort of argument that repeatedly recycling staffs leads to success.
 
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Don't worry Dolphins fans, your team will win AFC East...

Especially after Dem Boys go to Buffalo this Sunday and clip Josh Allen's Wings..

Cowboys by 10..
 
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LA Vol said:
UT is allocating resources at a "win now" level. Football should not take a step back next year-- not with the resources invested in this program. The expectation is to compete for championships, and that is the goal every year. Sooner or later, investment and results will have to sync. I'd go with sooner.
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Need to at minimum make the playoffs next year.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
It’s idiotic to say we are what our record is. Our record is indicative of our bad hires. Not what our program is or should be. I guess Texas was a bad program and should have stayed that way for a bad run a few years ago. No, they said we are better than this and spent the money to be good again.
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Texas was in a national title game 14 years ago, they've been in the Big 12 championship game since then as well. We just came off of our best year in over 20 years and didn't have a single thing to show for it. No playoff, no conference title, no division title/conference game berth. Tennessee has been left behind in program prestige by the likes of UGA and LSU, and it doesn't have the money to sustain in this day and age of college football. Heupel has done a good job, massively better than anyone in the decade before. I don't think he deserves to get fired but he will eventually get to that point if he doesn't look at the weak points of his system and his coaches. We're not in the group of programs that can naturally weather this dynamic atmosphere that is college football in the NIL era. We needed a guy like Heupel(and really an AD like Danny White) 10 years ago. That level of professionalism and stability would have kept the program afloat. Now we're back teetering on the edge like 2006. We can't stay rooted in values from a decade ago like we did then. We cannot have a staff that is afraid to mix it up, and adapt.
 
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LA Vol said:
UT is allocating resources at a "win now" level. Football should not take a step back next year-- not with the resources invested in this program. The expectation is to compete for championships, and that is the goal every year. Sooner or later, investment and results will have to sync. I'd go with sooner.
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Everybody in the conference is allocating resources at a win now level. Throwing money around only works in tandem with good decision making.
 
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LA Vol said:
UT is allocating resources at a "win now" level. Football should not take a step back next year-- not with the resources invested in this program. The expectation is to compete for championships, and that is the goal every year. Sooner or later, investment and results will have to sync. I'd go with sooner.
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Been wondering , if players still had to sit out a year..
Do you think this Portal activity would slow down tremendously????

Saying you wouldnt see hundreds of players jumping for greener pastures so quickly...
 
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ptclaus98 said:
Texas was in a national title game 14 years ago, they've been in the Big 12 championship game since then as well. We just came off of our best year in over 20 years and didn't have a single thing to show for it. No playoff, no conference title, no division title/conference game berth. Tennessee has been left behind in program prestige by the likes of UGA and LSU, and it doesn't have the money to sustain in this day and age of college football. Heupel has done a good job, massively better than anyone in the decade before. I don't think he deserves to get fired but he will eventually get to that point if he doesn't look at the weak points of his system and his coaches. We're not in the group of programs that can naturally weather this dynamic atmosphere that is college football in the NIL era. We needed a guy like Heupel(and really an AD like Danny White) 10 years ago. That level of professionalism and stability would have kept the program afloat. Now we're back teetering on the edge like 2006. We can't stay rooted in values from a decade ago like we did then. We cannot have a staff that is afraid to mix it up, and adapt.
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LSU wasn’t anything special before 2003… same with the Gators pre 1990.
 
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LA Vol said:
UT is allocating resources at a "win now" level. Football should not take a step back next year-- not with the resources invested in this program. The expectation is to compete for championships, and that is the goal every year. Sooner or later, investment and results will have to sync. I'd go with sooner.
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How can we say that yet at the same time extend Willie Mo?
 
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