Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Halph66]

Lol...I did the same thing..

Did you see Kayla Burton's face when the MVP award was given to Nico? The person butchered his name badly. At the end Kayla made a point to at least say "Congratulations to Nico".

 

[Vols4us]

They prolly need to close on more 5 stars.

Can't wait to see who Heup picks to replace Elarbee as O-line coach from our VN brethren. Hope whoever it is can recruit those Bama types.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

I took a shot at EricVol (I think he's on here and also very present on Twitter hyping the Vol Club) on Twitter last week about how they were prepping for their victory lap on Seaton when he pulled his shenanigans, and how situations like that are why some folks have tapped the brakes on the collective. He and many others took exception to what I was saying...essentially replying that we should all pay our fair share and accept the recruiting losses when they come.

Piggy-backing on that, it seems obvious that we need to make an investment in OL, WR, and maybe a RB and LB. Does anyone know if we are in on high-rated portal prospects at any of these positions, other than the WR from aTm? I'm really not trying to knock Spyre/VC, but between the collective and the coaching staff, somebody needs to figure out how to close on a higher percentage of prospects at these vital positions.

@Ericvol2096

 

[Weezer]

So my dawg husband is getting on my last nerve-he’s saying if Michigan wins the championship, then has to vacate the win, Georgia can ”3-peat” next year….grrrr

Sounds like grounds for justifiable homicide.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

January 2, 1939

Tennessee 17- Oklahoma 0

Tennessee and Oklahoma squared off in the1939 Orange Bowl in a classic battle of speed against size. And, when it was over, Tennessee’s speed and stamina had won out by a 17-0 count. Tennessee had come into the game undefeated and No. 2 in the country and Oklahoma was riding a 14-game winning streak. Tennessee scored first when a 15-yard penalty backed the Sooners to their 3-yard line. Vol tailback George Cafego returned the ensuing punt to the Sooner 27 and followed up the punt return with a key gain to the 12.Two plays later, Bob Foxx scored from the 8. The Vols scored a field goal after a Sooner fumble, a 22-yarder by Bowden Wyatt, and led 10-0 at the half. Tennessee scored its final touchdown in the fourth quarter on a 19-yard run by Babe Wood on a reverse. The Vols polished off their eighth shutout of the season by stopping the Sooners the rest of the way and finished undefeated in 11 games. It was a penalty-plagued game as tempers flared throughout the contest and more than 200 yards were assessed against the teams.

SCORING SUMMARY
TENN — Foxx 8 run (Wyatt run)
TENN — Wyatt 32 FG
TENN — Wood 19 run (Foxx kick)
The 1938 squad, coached by Major R.R. Neyland in his second of three stints at UT, captured the SEC championship and was crowned national champion by Dunkel and Litkenhous ratings.

The Vols outscored their opponents 293-16 that season. Bob Suffridge, a quick All-American guard out of Knoxville Central High School, anchored their great defense. Halfback George Cafego and end Bowden Wyatt, who would later succeed Neyland as head coach in 1955, also were All-Americans on the ‘38 team.

1939 Orange Bowl Tennessee vs Oklahoma; College Football

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Only gave up 16 points in 11 games ...I don't care what era that was...it is freaking awesome.

 

[chavisut]

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[Glitch]

You have no idea how much I love this!

 

[VolGee4]

I took a shot at EricVol (I think he's on here and also very present on Twitter hyping the Vol Club) on Twitter last week about how they were prepping for their victory lap on Seaton when he pulled his shenanigans, and how situations like that are why some folks have tapped the brakes on the collective. He and many others took exception to what I was saying...essentially replying that we should all pay our fair share and accept the recruiting losses when they come.

Piggy-backing on that, it seems obvious that we need to make an investment in OL, WR, and maybe a RB and LB. Does anyone know if we are in on high-rated portal prospects at any of these positions, other than the WR from aTm? I'm really not trying to knock Spyre/VC, but between the collective and the coaching staff, somebody needs to figure out how to close on a higher percentage of prospects at these vital positions.

We aren't getting Stewart. We don't need WR with Bru coming back- would consider an upgrade of it was available. With the news about the Temple CB this week, I think OL and LB are the positions to focus on now. But, it sounds like numbers are tight, so they are likely waiting until maybe more leave in the spring.

 

[Jackcrevol]

So THANKFUL so yesterday’s game! Just 4 years ago when disaster struck I seriously doubted there would ever be much to cheer about in Tennessee football for the rest of my life. Considering where we were to being in 2 New Years bowl games to watching NICO and Pearce…wow.

I’ll let the rest of you perfect the team.

Man, how many years were there where we couldnt even snap the ball off correctly?

I mean, EA had to hand the ball off right handed. Jon Crompton, bless his heart, had 75 OC's, he still may not be right.

Butch and Dooley. WTH? Love to tell the freezing my ass off...Vandy story. Mid December. Watching us get beat, at home. In the nose bleeds. Has anyone here ever felt that aluminum stick to back of their ass before? Its like sitting on a popsicle...Imagine paying money to sit on it, with wind whipping up off the TN, and smackin you in the face...

So, Ill take a 9-4, and a win versus Iowa.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

1 OT and the other a chance to win at the close. Neither played the most dominant ball we have ever seen, but that made for elite engaging games.


One unsung game changer is the MI d line. Bama had a tough time with that unit.

If that DL plays like that against Washington...they probably win.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Did you see Kayla Burton's face when the MVP award was given to Nico? The person butchered his name badly. At the end Kayla made a point to at least say "Congratulations to Nico".

'Nico E a maylaeaga.'

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

For the record, I think most have agreed with you 100% through the season. Joe has never been "the" problem, but he's had major problems. And when the system goes through the QB, his problems become the major problem.

And I'll double down here. I think Joe's problems were mostly mental. I think he just got in his own head and slowed himself down. Nico seems to be a walking beta blocker. Cool as a cucumber, with the talent to back it up.

But with all that said. I love Joe. I want him as a face of the program for a long time to come. I want to see him on our sidelines for years. I want to see him ball out in the NFL. I want all the best things for that guy because he is truly an amazing VFL.

agree

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Gone? So we’re gonna have zero depth at WR then? Who replaces them if they’re gone?

Yep...and you remember when this bunch of idiots wrote off Tillman and Hyatt for the same reasons?...I sure as hell remember.

 

[Ashevolle]

So my dawg husband is getting on my last nerve-he’s saying if Michigan wins the championship, then has to vacate the win, Georgia can ”3-peat” next year….grrrr

Sounds like a real valid victorian.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Spencer Riley, VFL and National Champion Tennessee linemen has a different perspective about our OL than what most on VolNation are stating. The YouTube video is below.

I know many don't like Dave Hooker, but I like Spencer's assessment of the players. Spencer comes online at the 3:15 mark. I value Spencer's assessment given his experience as a player and coach.

Yeah there’s 2 things they touched on that are absolutely not mutually exclusive.

1. Rb pass block (more about OL): Sampson sucks at pass block. However, I think the number one thing you have to do to be a good pass blocking rb is recognize correctly who the free rusher will be. Well that’s a heck of a lot harder when you can’t trust the point to win their battles. So yeah Sampson needs to make the block and not do it half as$ (needs to own the miss on screen play), but OL also needs to hold up their end on one v one and guess who absolutely ain’t doin that: Ollie Lane, Jackson Lampley, Dayne Davis. If any of those 3 were to be starting next year, the coaches should get every bit of criticism you can give them.

2. See point 1. Offensive line needs overhauling. The amount of drive killing penalties we gave up this year (false starts and holdings) is inexcusable. Need more talent there asap and it needs to happen through the portal bc freshman OL don’t cut it no matter how good they are (see Kaden proctor for bama this year - good enough to start, not good enough to start at the standard needed).

Bonus point: wrs are good, not great. Keyton played this season like he had nothing to prove. I don’t like that. Though Joe Milton was sometimes too cool for his britches, thought the same about keyton. They overshot the “do your job and don’t worry” thing but forgot to sometimes do the job. Coaches should be all over them for that. Need bru back for his leadership alone. And need someone to emerge like Hyatt did (besides bru or squirrel). Should be possible between Thornton, Brazzell, Leacock, nimrod, Webb, staes, davis, matthews, (maybe Stewart?). But it’s got to happen. If defenses shade to one side, the other side has to step up in the man coverage battle and make a play.

 

[Halph66]

At least in the secondary, I saw talent and development from the young guys yesterday. Even zone coverage looked different. lol

They even knocked down several passes that were certain completions. I think they tackled well in space when they had to also.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Difficult to judge that against a historically bad offense. My belief is the older guys would’ve just as much success.

None of them make that INT Turrentine did...that was a freaking spectacular defensive play.

 

[butchna]

One observation of the game. If VQ and Twitter talk are to be believed, Mincey believes he’s a LT and tried to negotiate it into existence. If he returns and doesn’t portal, he should be grateful for a starting gig at RT. Also, I’m finally concurring with some of the VQ minutes “concern”. Definitely need to play more players next season.

 

[Adam Sandler]

“All recruits will remember is how many dudes FSU gets drafted, not how they got humiliated with 10M fans watching”

……..

Yeah, getting beat that bad looks bad no matter what caveats you give. Now maybe fsu gets away with it some and still does fine, just like Oregon did (42-3 right? With all their starters), they seem to be fine. But point remains, that’ll get you top 10 team. If you want to beat uga, bama, Osu without it being a huge upset, you have to consistently field a team that can be competitive even with guys out. And nobody has the depth to consistently do that when those 3 programs are recruiting at the level they are each and every year.

 

[VOL608]

I haven’t kept up with this thread over the last couple of days so apologies if this has been mentioned, but it looked like Nico ran the offense more like Hendon and less like Milton. The offense seemed to flow a lot better. The hype is real.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

I saw Mincey get smoked over and over yesterday. But the kid thinks he’s Trent Williams. Hilarious.

 

[butchna]

Gone? So we’re gonna have zero depth at WR then? Who replaces them if they’re gone?

Staley and Matthews and Brazzell.

 

[engineerVOL]

I haven’t kept up with this thread over the last couple of days so apologies if this has been mentioned, but it looked like Nico ran the offense more like Hendon and less like Milton. The offense seemed to flow a lot better. The hype is real.

More importantly, have we established a good nickname?

Eight ball? Nico Suave? Samoan Slinger? The Polynesian Pistol?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

There should be a broadcast from overhead with no announcers. That would be awesome.

I saw a clip yesterday promoting the Bama game where the network showed one of the TD throws against us and it was re-edited so tightly from right to left and top to bottom that you could not see Bama holding on either side, in front of the QB or behind. Probably reedited (clipped) for length too and spliced because there seemed to be no time at all between throw and catch. The holding must have showed up there too. It looked like it took multiple manipulations to hide the no-calls.

I noticed that too...it's f'n ridiculous how much pure has been done by them and for them.

 

[DD4ME]

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