Recruiting Football Talk VII

[LA Vol]

Saturday's player absences aren't strange within the context of how this staff operates. CJH considers team business to be team business, not shared outside the program. A player being "unavailable" may be injured or not available as a matter of discipline. He could be suspended for violating team rules, restricted due to an internal situation or held back because another player "earned" PT with a better week of practice. CJH prefers not to address any of it outside the program. It may not make sense to the media, but the staff is deliberate in how they handle situations internally.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Saturday sucked ass and still pissed about it. But y’all are acting like we just started the season 1-2 with a loss to UF and Virginia. Still a lot to play for and improvements that can be made. Going 5-1 into Tuscaloosa is still a good possibility

The margin of error is small, especially in this league. Clean up the offensive penalties and missed tackles on d, commit to being the most aggressive team on the field on both sides of the ball, and this team can be everything we hoped it would be.

 

[Orange.]

I wouldn't be opposed to some of those sweeps and underneaths that Florida was running on us to get Mertz in gear.

A lot of that resembled our playbook. I wouldn't be shocked to discover that we were literally the source.

 

[Vol423]

The margin of error is small, especially in this league. Clean up the offensive penalties and missed tackles on d, commit to being the most aggressive team on the field on both sides of the ball, and this team can be everything we hoped it would be.

So, if they just play 100% opposite of the way they played against Florida, they can be everything we hoped they would be. Wonderful.

 

[csprig9]

Saturday's player absences aren't strange within the context of how this staff operates. CJH considers team business to be team business, not shared outside the program. A player being "unavailable" may be injured or not available as a matter of discipline. He could be suspended for violating team rules, restricted due to an internal situation or held back because another player "earned" PT with a better week of practice. CJH prefers not to address any of it outside the program. It may not make sense to the media, but the staff is deliberate in how they handle situations internally.

I appreciate that
Keep **** in house

 

[jpope9]

Anyone see this yet?

 

[Orange.]

Looks pretty clear that the CSU players pokes at Sander’s face right before but gets blocked by his visor. This is typical rivalry behavior. The hit on hunter was not. Seems intentionally obtuse to argue otherwise.

Yeah, would need to see video. I can't see in the still what you describe. I don't really care, one way or the other, anyway. Not my circus.

 

[Orange.]

Saturday's player absences aren't strange within the context of how this staff operates. CJH considers team business to be team business, not shared outside the program. A player being "unavailable" may be injured or not available as a matter of discipline. He could be suspended for violating team rules, restricted due to an internal situation or held back because another player "earned" PT with a better week of practice. CJH prefers not to address any of it outside the program. It may not make sense to the media, but the staff is deliberate in how they handle situations internally.

It makes perfect sense to anyone who supports the team.

 

[BigSteve09]

Anyone see this yet?

maybe I'm getting old

why do our fans think this was good?

 

[tnhunter 10]

I don’t understand the Mincey suspension. Why is Heupel saying it’s basically day to day?

Past curfew on a Thursday night. Probably having to "earn" his way back. He needs to be the starting RT.

 

[Vol423]

Anyone see this yet?

He's not a legend. He's a moron. I would say that one of our defensive players should have tackled him in the middle of the field, but we all know how that would have played out. He'd still be running.

 

[Adam Sandler]

I guess we’re trendsetters. New move is to get out of the big buyouts when they don’t deliver.

Uga will hire him as an analyst on Friday

 

[DMG]

Geez. It's miserable in here. We got people mad at the color blue!

 

[Adam Sandler]

I guess we’re trendsetters. New move is to get out of the big buyouts when they don’t deliver.

They would have liked to keep him had this not occurred.

 

[Orange.]

I don't think hes saying we have a Summitt Blue football uniform that's popular with LV alum. He's saying Summitt Blue is now an official color with our Nike contract and it's popular with the LV teams. The LVs all have a Summitt Blue uniform combination, not men's teams.

Phew. Thank you. I was worried for a minute because of people in this thread last year arguing that we should do a Pat tribute and wear blue and orange uniforms once year every year.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

maybe I'm getting old

why do our fans think this was good?

Because it was our longest rush of the day

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Something else maybe to consider –

In 2022 we rushed for 227 yards in our win against Florida.

Generally it’s accepted that if you want to stop our offense, or really most offenses, you need to stop the run and make that offense one-dimensional.

This year we rushed for 100 yards against Florida.

Looking again at last year, Jabari Small rushed 19 times for 90 yards. Jaylen Wright rushed 10 times for 25 yards. That’s a total of 115 yards.

This year Jaylen Wright rushed 16 times for 63 yards and Jabari Small rushed 7 times for 35 yards. That’s a total of 98 yards, not a whole lot of difference, right?

Last year Hendon Hooker rushed 13 times for 112 yards, including 3 sacks.

Bru McCoy had 2 yards rushing this year so that got us to 100. Joe was credited with at least 5 rushing attempts including 1 sack for a net of 6 yards and the team had 1 unassigned attempt which lost 6 yards.

I think it’s apparent we may have really missed Hooker’s running ability in the game last Saturday. We definitely didn’t have the complementary production to our running backs we had in 2022 and they obviously couldn’t even begin to make up for Hooker’s absence. jmo.

I don’t remember but I suspect most of Hendon’s rushing yards not just for the Florida game last year but in general weren’t designed runs. He just made things happen. If he didn’t have a window to get the ball to one of our receivers and he could see grass in front of him he took off. jmo.

Anyway, maybe something to keep in mind when assessing our running game from this past week. Our running backs were about the same as last year in their production. jmo.

2022 Running backs against Florida with our 2022 offensive line 115 yards/29 attempts = 3.97 yards/attempt.
2023 Running backs against Florida with our 2023 offensive line 98 yards/23 attempts = 4.26 yards/attempt.

If we want to fix our running game maybe we need to restore the missing element, i.e. the rushing production by the QB. Nobody thinks our OL this year is better than our OL last year so it doesn't seem rational to have that for an expectation. jmo.

 

[tnhunter 10]

There was a wr wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open down the field. Don't remember who it was but he was Hyatt open. Joe gets slightly better pass pro that's a long TD.

Agreed. Hard to throw downfield when the oline can't give you 3 seconds. Run blocking was crap, FL was rushing 5 and TN couldn't contain with 6. Oline has to get better.

 

[volsagain]

Wtf. It is wrong to suspend Omari Thomas for a half for shoulder bumping a guy running around after he was told by the Gator center that they were going to take a knee. It was a live play. The Gators who went after Thomas with fists, I can understand being suspended.

Bad luck they are picking on Thomas and not Hadden. That would have gotten a fun reaction. But the Birmingham Office would never lend us a hand. Not that Hadden did anything wrong in that one instance; he was trying to keep five Gators and a Gator coach from ganging up on Omari. Good on him, for once.

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Omari Thomas explains 'disrespect' that led to Tennessee football vs Florida on final play

Tennessee football and Florida had a brief brouhaha at the end of UT's 29-16 loss Saturday after UF quarterback Graham Mertz kneeled down.

www.tennessean.com

Lott got suspended not Thomas .

 

[LA Vol]

It makes perfect sense to anyone who supports the team.

It all makes sense within their context. You break team rules-- we don't tell, but you don't play. You don't want to play where we need you-- you may not play. You're outworked-- you drop in the rotation and watch harder workers play. The media wants all the details, and they're not going to get them.

 

[KB5252]

There isn't just one issue that fixes itself. We are going to be in dogfights we had counted as wins pre season.

The defense needs to show improvement, we need them to carry their weight this season. The offense isn't going to be capable of erasing their shortcomings.

As others have pointed out, we have to improve on the los, particularly on offense. We have to be able to run the ball.

 

[volinbama256]

If Heup trots out Hadden this weekend, he's not who I thought he was... and yes I know Willie is the position group coach, but Heup's the HC. Too much young talent not to get their feet wet against UTSA to see how they may do getting more playing time down the schedule. The "bump" without tackling alone that to me, changed the narrative of the game, is enough to sit and reflect on his effort.

 

[Orange.]

Looks pretty clear that the CSU players pokes at Sander’s face right before but gets blocked by his visor. This is typical rivalry behavior. The hit on hunter was not. Seems intentionally obtuse to argue otherwise.

I can see that his right arm was raised but not where it was, but, again, I'm not worried about it. I thought Sanders played well, the part of the game I saw. And I never suggested the hit on Hunter was justified. On the contrary: #9,855 I'm not one of the people who hate Colorado.

 

[Orange.]

Lott got suspended not Thomas .

Thank you. I quoted that information correctly, but was confused in my comments by having just read the remarks by Thomas.

 

[OrangenSC]

Ive learned to stay away during games, and i know better than go through and try to catch up on posts. No doubt that would upset me more than the game itself.

I suspect posters have already clamored for a change at qb, as ignorant as that is.

So, this may have also already been addressed, but what's the over/under on more losses before said fans start wanting a coaching change too?

You know it's coming. Another one of those things they're just waiting for any excuse to do. Oh, they'll try to be subtle about it. You know, "I'm not suggesting we should change coaches, but...".