Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
IDGAF about causing toxic problems on the team for any reason...it reputedly did at Arky.
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I think that it would be rare for the same problem to happen at a different place. There aren't that many gay D1 players let alone ones who are going to hook up with each other instead of someone else. Arkansas caught lightning in a bottle - just of the unfortunate variety.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I am not necessarily condescending you, but I am condescending the constant worry circle here that unceasingly promotes an attitude of UT victim-hood. If that's not you, so be it. Just know that I roll my eyes at the comment and sentiment, and not the poster.

If that is you, I'd recommend you stop borrowing worries from the future.

The cycle of imagining everything to UT's demise gets tiring.

NCAA is gunning for UT, threatening LOIC and a post-season ban.
Oh no! Will we survive?!
Don't worry, this is much more likely to kill the NCAA than UT.

Looks like the NCAA may be dying.
Oh no! Ohio State may...!


Sorry, but that is worthy of an eye roll. Take a breath from the current catastrophe before creating another one, brother.
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Obviously you have the right on a public message board to read and respond as you wish. You may read posts individually and take them out of context all you like. But you are barking up the wrong tree trying to paint me as a member of the worry circle that is afraid of its own shadow. My post history doesn’t support your assertion. Just because I have a post about a particular situation stating that I don’t trust an entity to be on the up and up, and don’t necessarily think some joint advisory committee between the same big and sec officials who are already running the ncaa, will be any better for UT than the ncaa already is, doesn’t mean I borrow troubles or worry excessively. I promise I won’t lose any sleep over it. It was an observation about my reservation regarding the intentions of said committee. Nothing more, nothing less.

Roll(eyes) on
 
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UTProf said:
I think that it would be rare for the same problem to happen at a different place. There aren't that many gay D1 players.
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There aren’t that many out, because being out itself would cause problems in a locker room. Like it or not, not everyone is okay with it. Especially somewhere like a locker room.
 
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screenthis said:
I'm not naïve on this. No, we won't be going back to when players aren't being paid (and I don't want to go back to that). But, we do need rules/guidelines. I'm hoping something can be worked out to keep things competitive where many schools have a chance to compete and it's not just coming down to the highest bidder. Maybe salary caps? Revenue Sharing? I don't know. Yea, that sounds like 'pro sports'.
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Can't have caps or revenue sharing or pretty much any enforceable rules dealing with compensation without a CBA.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
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I wonder if the back dating of our violations is related to the lawsuit they may have to back-pay billions for NIL. Not directly related, but seems like something vindictive they would do.

And if they lose billions, according to the video, it is said the institutions are exempt of liability. Wouldnt that bankrupt the NCAA, or are they hoarding massive amounts of cash?
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Most college kids don’t. That percentage shrinks significantly with male athletes in the south.
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Maybe male athletes in the South but since we're narrowing try on male COLLEGE athletes in the South. We handled it with Jackie Walker for heaven's sake. A metric ton has changed since then.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
SIAP but this is just flat out ridiculous. So, the NCAA didn’t actually find anything NEW that we did wrong when they claimed on Monday they had multiple violations against multiple programs they were planning to hit us with?’
They’re just trying to re-try infractions cases that were ALREADY CLOSED!!!! Incredible. Any shred of illusion that the NCAA doesn’t hate us is completely broken. This is an actual witch hunt. Double jeopardy?? Hello???

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Lol I'm really confused on what the NCAA is doing now.
 
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UTProf said:
Maybe male athletes in the South but since we're narrowing try on male COLLEGE athletes in the South. We handled it with Jackie Walker for heaven's sake. A metric ton has changed since then.
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The COLLEGE part doesn’t make much of a difference down here. Male COLLEGE athletes still have more of a problem with it, especially black ones. Even in COLLEGE.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
The COLLEGE part doesn’t make much of a difference down here. Male COLLEGE athletes still have more of a problem with it, especially black ones. Even in COLLEGE.
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So we could handle it in the 60s-70s but not now? People still have problems with interracial dating and women voting. I'm not gonna pander to them.
 
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UTProf said:
I think that it would be rare for the same problem to happen at a different place. There aren't that many gay D1 players let alone ones who are going to hook up with each other instead of someone else. Arkansas caught lightning in a bottle - just of the unfortunate variety.
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I don't care what they do either as long as it doesn't cause problems.
 
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UTProf said:
I said the other day the unspoken truth was that that the SEC and probably the B1G was behind us and what happened today? I don't know how much bigger the p5 needs to make the billboard for the NCAA to get the message on this.
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I wonder if the ACC, PAC12 and B12 join in as well?
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I don't care what they do either as long as it doesn't cause problems.
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Agree. It reminds me of the situation we had with one of Butch's teams. It was bad on a football team when they were fighting over the same girl but on a basketball team, a little bit of drama can devastate the roster.
 
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Am I crazy or did I see a quote up thread from the ncaa board guy from Georgia that basically said “not sure why the NCAA feels the need to go after schools over NIL, but we are just here to figure NIL out for the student athlete.”

Disclaimer: that might not be at all what he said. I read it at a glance earlier today.
 
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screenthis said:
I'm not naïve on this. No, we won't be going back to when players aren't being paid (and I don't want to go back to that). But, we do need rules/guidelines. I'm hoping something can be worked out to keep things competitive where many schools have a chance to compete and it's not just coming down to the highest bidder. Maybe salary caps? Revenue Sharing? I don't know. Yea, that sounds like 'pro sports'.
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Rules, for other forms of cheating, sure. But not around paying players though.

Pros don't have all these ticky tack situations all the time because of it. You simply make contracts and pay according to them. It's almost too simple...too common sense.


Salary caps, sure. First we need salaries. Caps on NIL? NEVER. That is not legal and never will be.

This system is so messed up and yet the universities bury their heads to avoid giving up power. It's literally pathetic to watch. And here comes some "new NCAA aka SECB1GAA" to avoid it for longer, I guarantee.

Any veil the universities can use to hide behind, they will.
 
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