Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Enki_Amenra said:
Idk if you're joking, but he would probably be a good TE if he didnt mind contact.
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He doesn't have the footwork or agility.

TE horizontal athleticism is underrated.

Joe has excellent vertical/downfield athleticism, but he's not a HH or Dobbs when it comes to footwork and agility. He IS a great runaway train once he gets going though.
 
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Love how good Heupel is at preparing his team for bowl games.

That quality is going to become MASSIVE in the new 12-team era. Whoever can prepare their team the best with a month off will separate the first round exiters from champions.

We're now 3-0 in bowl games under Heupel and we've looked especially well prepared the last 2 years, winning by a total of 66-14 vs a conference champion and conference runner-up. This bodes well.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Joe Milton is a great VFL but ability to read defenses are way too slow for NFL..
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Can't disagree. My biggest concern since day 1, similar to Harrison Bailey. If he becomes a journeyman backup, he'll have done very well for himself. Making millions as a 2nd/3rd stringer and occassional hail mary guy...ain't a bad life...
 
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Devo182 said:
Joe averaged 7.9 YPA, 1.7 TDs/game and only .4 INTs/game this season.

Today he averaged 6.1 YPA, had no TDs, and 2 picks.


No way you can say he played the same as all season. If he had those stats all season, we don't make a bowl game. Instead we went 9-4 for the 2nd best season since Fulmer left...

Hype has truly set the bar much higher than anytime since the early 2000s. That's a good thing.
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I have tried to tell everybody that Heupel squeezed everything he could out of Joe this year. They had to call plays to work around his limitations while maximizing overall offensive production...they did an amazing job and get criticized for it.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Joe will be a backup in the NFL. He was bad today, but he can out together enough good play to have value as a back up.

I'm sure several of our fans are reveling in his failure today though 🙄
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I wanted Joe to ball out today. I had posted before the season that Milton was going to get us to the SEC Championship, so I had a lot of hope/faith in him after his Orange Bowl performance. He had some really solid games this year and the receivers just didn't catch the ball. He also had some "what are you doing?!?" type moments too. He didn't process like a SEC QB should and the NFL is played even faster. I see someone taking a chance because of his arm strength but I don't see him ever starting at the next level.


*He's also a lot more likeable than Guarantano and he didn't lose games like JG did. I couldn't stand that kid.
 
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Devo182 said:
Well ofc there will be a diffetence between P5 and D2...lol. Don't think that's the discussion. Not even talking D2 schools having salaries.

Actually, I'm not even sure what this discussion currently is lol.

At the end of the day you can't regulate how much one can earn from NIL.

But there will always be some players going to the NY or LA pro markets for greater exposure. And similar will happen in CFB. Local markets like Austin or Knoxville metro regions will trump smaller ones like Gainesville or Athens...once it's more about actual marketing and top guys' salaries are 6+ figures. Assuming these are real market salaries, otherwise more of the same.
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GA Southern isn't D2. They are G5--Sunbelt. Haven't been D2 in years.

And that kind of proves my point. Few people keep up with them, see them, or know anything about them. Who will have the most NIL market potential? UT or GA Southern?

So, if we see a salary cap, it basically sets everyone to relative zero on pay-for-play (just like now). What will break that tie? NIL. Just like today.

We don't have to debating more. It'll be interesting to watch it play out.
 
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Both can be true that Milton is not very good but it is also hard for anyone to gel with one week of practice and go out and play great
 
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Orange_Crush said:
GA Southern isn't D2. They are G5--Sunbelt. Haven't been D2 in years.

And that kind of proves my point. Few people keep up with them, see them, or know anything about them. Who will have the most NIL market potential? UT or GA Southern?

So, if we see a salary cap, it basically sets everyone to relative zero on pay-for-play (just like now). What will break that tie? NIL. Just like today.

We don't have to debating more. It'll be interesting to watch it play out.
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Yes I'm just talking P5. I don't presume any other levels will swing salaries.

Will also depend on how high the salaries go for the top players. Do boosters/fans still invest into NiL when their QB makes $1mm/year? Or will it become truly marketing NiL? Maybe a (truer) mix?

Like you said, time will tell. I'm not sure myself, but I see it becoming less important, similar to pro marketing opps. Who knows?
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Joe Milton is a great VFL but ability to read defenses are way too slow for NFL..
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Couldn't in college either.

Yet, Heupel almost stole the game in T-Town and if the OL was healthy at Swamp, could have had another 11-win season.

As time passes, our appreciation and admiration of Heupel's coaching this past season will increase.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Couldn't in college either.

Yet, Heupel almost stole the game in T-Town and if the OL was healthy at Swamp, could have had another 11-win season.

As time passes, our appreciation and admiration of Heupel's coaching this past season will increase.
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That's wild we were whipping Bama in their own dump.

Can't remember the last time we went to halftime at Alabama like that. And then Hadden was injured...and it felt like a ripple effect 😒
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, honest question... Would that work?

Since the SCOTUS (and many state laws) say that you can't artificially limit a player's NIL capabilities, you can't cap their marketing income. So... You're right back where we are now. Everybody gets the same salary (whether $0/yr or $100,000/yr), but richer, more productive markets will draw the better athletes based on NIL potential.

I don't know. Maybe you could get a player's association to bargain that right away. But especially with the SEC/BIG announcement yesterday, it seems much more likely that the richer/stronger conferences will say what seems plain... "We're not going to be dragged down to try to keep a competitive balance with the lower half of the league that will never compete with us anyway. We're going over there to do this our way."
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I am about a inch from saying screw it all...nobody gives a crap about fans...period. None of these bastards on any side would get 💩 if it wasn't for us.

What is the dang point of it all? What is the point when you NEVER get a fair deal? I am pretty much sick of it all.
 
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