Recruiting Football Talk VII

[mrMet]

Landry, Key, and Weaver return. Sweat was dominant in OTAs. Coburn was solid last year and they picked up a vet in Joseph-Day. Should still get really good production.

The DL is gonna be filthy. I personally can’t wait to see it

 

[DD4ME]

Yeah...dumb narrative that somehow fans of pro teams are only fans of pro teams.

The Colts increased their fanbase big time when they drafted Peyton Manning and his jersey sell numbers in TN alone proved it.

If CMO landed in Atlanta they would ABSOLUTELY benefit.

Dalton Knecht has just been the most recent Vol that really became beloved despite being a 1 & done. He will bring Vols fans to the Lakers and if he's contributing it'll be a lot of them.

Facts

 

[Aesius]

I don’t understand why anyone does not grasp that there is a major overlap of college and professional sports fans. Many of us just aren’t as fanatical of professional franchises as we are of our college teams because the professional team organizations are not as loyal to their fan bases as colleges.

I follow professional sports still but no longer stick exclusively to a single franchise to support in good times and bad. I now tend to gravitate to following teams with players I am interested in either due to collegiate background, outstanding character, or generational talent.

I may agree with the overall premise that you don’t tie yourself exclusively to local collegiate program when building a team. However it is shortsighted by a franchise to not build additional local fan base support when they overlap with such a significant local collegiate fan base that is so incredibly loyal, at least for occasional roster additions where reasonable.

So you support ownership meddling in personnel decisions to maybe, perhaps slightly increase fan interest while also taking away power and control from the one guy who's supposed to have it: the GM?

What you suggest wouldn't move the needle one iota with Vols fans UNLESS the drafted guy is a stud, which is a total crapshoot. They drafted Justin Hunter and he was a huge bust. They get zero credit for that, of course. Bringing in Dobbs brought them zero goodwill. In fact, it hurt them because they didn't re-sign him for 2023.

 

[DD4ME]

I’ve never liked the Grizzlies myself but I’m glad DK isn’t in that hellhole of a city. I think San Antonio would’ve been nice and I was hoping for the sixers myself

DK won. 0 zero zilch doubts. From a dude that genuinely thinks the Lakers are sideways lately.

 

[mrMet]

You ever seen the stats on dominant head coaches? It's funny but they all regress to the mean. Fox got panthers to a title game, they fire him and he went right down the road and did it again at Denver. NFL is 3 parts QB, 3 parts front office alignment, 1-3 parts owner, and 1-3 parts coach. The last one you can slide the ratios as long as you have a strong competent person in both seats and you share a vision.

Patriots at one time had all 3. Cowboys at one time before Jerry refused to have a strong minded coach had all 3. Titans and panthers have maybe 1.

If someone would give Belicheck a chance he'd probably be headed for some pretty mediocre results.

Fishers last 7 years coaching, he never won more than 8 games. Previous to that, he won more than 8 games 6 times…in 22 years. He is definition of mediocre and why he hasn’t been employed in the nfl since 2016

 

[DD4ME]

So you support ownership meddling in personnel decisions to maybe, perhaps slightly increase fan interest?

What you suggest wouldn't move the needle one iota with Vols fans UNLESS the drafted guy is a stud, which is a total crapshoot. They drafted Justin Hunter and he was a huge bust. They get zero credit for that, of course. Bringing in Dobbs brought them zero goodwill. In fact, it hurt them because they didn't re-sign him for 2023.

Hahaha why do teams sometimes keep higher paid vets if it was always about performance?

There is always a balance to all of this.

 

[DD4ME]

Fishers last 7 years coaching, he never won more than 8 games. Previous to that, he won more than 8 games 6 times…in 22 years. He is definition of mediocre and why he hasn’t been employed in the nfl since 2016

I am not a proponent of Fisher. Just saying most of the coaches end up mediocre given time. If your guy gets you to a superbowl he probably knows what he is doing.

 

[mrMet]

Hahaha why do teams sometimes keep higher paid vets if it was always about performance?

There is always a balance to all of this.

Locker room and scheme fit have more to do with that than fandom. I can guarantee that lol

 

[Brillovol]

Now the filter is coming off…

 

[SoilVol]

OLB, OLB, and OLB... I misunderstood and was only looking at the DE/DT/NT positions... I agree Titans have some very good OLB/EDGE guys on the roster I'm excited about.

Sorry, I misunderstood as well. Those guys are listed as OLBs but in our defense they're DE's basically. They're on the line.

 

[mrMet]

I am not a proponent of Fisher. Just saying most of the coaches end up mediocre given time. If your guy gets you to a superbowl he probably knows what he is doing.

1 Super Bowl in 17 years with the franchise and only 6 total playoff appearances. So 6 playoff appearances in 22 years coaching.

 

[Girth Brooks]

 

[peaygolf]

Now the filter is coming off…

 

[WesTnVol]

Wasn’t there something written before the baseball season about Tennessee being a non factor this year
EA Sports is about learn something

 

[VolGee4]

Disrespect from EA in the new game





WTF...

Has to be an oversight, right? Penn State at 12? I remember being on guys’ trip last year watching a bunch of games and couldn’t believe how terrible and boring Penn State was on offense. That’s awful.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Now the filter is coming off…

there are winners and losers. sometimes a loser can be a winner. case in point.

 

[McDad]

Yeah because Tennessee is the only school that signs 3 stars.

Where do you guys come up with this crap?

We have a consulting firm which provides us crap to post.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

My goodness they are really banking on that Milton, Nimrod and Webb offense to be the norm huh?

 

[VolGee4]

I’ve never liked the Grizzlies myself but I’m glad DK isn’t in that hellhole of a city. I think San Antonio would’ve been nice and I was hoping for the sixers myself

I really don’t root for the Titans, so there you go.

 

[drvenner]

I will cheer for DK. I will NOT cheer for LeBum.

So, if it's Game 7 of the Finals, you're not going to want DK to get that ring?

 

[butchna]

Biggest mistake the Titans ever made was getting rid of Jeff Fisher. . .

You being serious?

 

[LaagerVol]

Sorry to intrude on the conversation, but I know that AJ Brown has "knee issues" and the Titan's medical staff were concerned enough to not warrant a long term deal. In hindsight, obviously a huge mistake. He was also a problem in the locker-room. Just saying..............

Levis has the tools to be really good to great. Staff loves him fwiw.

I'll root for the Titans no matter how stupid they are sometimes, just like UT during the "lost years"

I feel like trading AJ was the right move, it’s just the pick they made from the trade was poor. I’m of the notion that you don’t overpay big unless it’s a QB, OT, DE. I like trading guys before they start a decline (not saying AJ has begun declining, idk) while you can get real value for them. I love draft picks.

 

[mrMet]

I really don’t root for the Titans, so there you go.

Congrats! You posted about the grizzlies and I responded…about the grizzlies

 

[knoxvol52]

So, if it's Game 7 of the Finals, you're not going to want DK to get that ring?

Yea he does Weezer will be wearing a Purple & Gold Knecht jersey and hugging a LeBron jersey.

 

[Hammer85]

So, if it's Game 7 of the Finals, you're not going to want DK to get that ring?

I want DK to refuse to pass the ball to Lebron and make the game winning shot.