Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Jackcrevol]

A man says every fan is gonna be shocked at just how little we've actually shown through the first few games.

At some point this week, water will be wet.

 

[mrMet]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

If you're gonna get a big truck, it should look just like this. . .

 

[rikberry31]

I want to believe that man. Vanilla till Oklahoma.

I don't think we will have to do anything special against OU.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Imo, that's nowhere near as outlandish as the 8-4 bullsh!t that was being spewed only 3 weeks or so ago. "But, but...the odds, the charts and graphs."

If i remember correctly, I believe I was even called an idiot for thinking 8-4 would be a disappointment.




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And once again...8-4 will be tough if we lose Nico and DB and a couple of OL to injury.

And NOBODY knew what the team would look like...it was all supposition thanks to so much NEW everywhere...

For the record I said 11-1 or 10-2 if everything went right to 8-4 if a lot went wrong...I think that was a fair assessment.

We haven't played anybody with a pulse. The team looks great so far...at the very high end of the execution scale on both sides of the ball, but we are about to play somebody that can deck us with a solid right hook...so let's hope that doesn't happen and everything keeps going right.

Who said we were going 8-4...period?

 

[Brillovol]

Naw, Meach, Swain, and Smith.

I think this overall roster could be deeper with more future pros.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I don't think we will have to do anything special against OU.

I expect that we're gonna see some variations in the play designs that we've already ran. Like the shovel pass and the sideline throws. I think we're gonna see several new formations altogether. No trick plays out of them, just a new look no one has seen yet.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Imo, that's nowhere near as outlandish as the 8-4 bullsh!t that was being spewed only 3 weeks or so ago. "But, but...the odds, the charts and graphs."

If i remember correctly, I believe I was even called an idiot for thinking 8-4 would be a disappointment.




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8-4 would be lukewarm, imo, based on where we were a few years ago and where we wanted to be by year 4. Our schedule isnt a cakewalk, most teams in the country would have big trouble trying to get past 9-3. 10-2 would be a good year and anything beyond that would be excellent.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I think this overall roster could be deeper with more future pros.

Those three were dudes though. It's a tough comparison, catches were caught, records were made, people were drafted, careers were had.

So then what do you judge this by?

College-pro careers? Overall impact to program? Leadership?

Obviously what Jayson has done afterward, and what Robert did here, then in NFL is lofty.

I think stuff is proven on field. And at end of season we can make fairer comparisons.

 

[rikberry31]

I'm going to state the obvious:

No one we've played so far has dared to test the pass rush, NC State waded knee deep a few times but thought better.

Someone is going to test it, I think that'll be this weekend. Need the back half of this defense to step up, the DL will get home if they do. The defense will be key, no letting qb's beat contain, if they dare run it hammer them. Suffocating defense. Pierce has a coming out party.... Two sacks and on the heels of this QB like a rabid dog. Interior DL is going to feast.

Offense comes alive and depth overwhelming in the second half. We win by 3 scores.

OU is not going to want to mess with our DL with their OL being a weakness. They will get it out quick.

 

[Jackcrevol]

If you're gonna get a big truck, it should look just like this. . .

not an extended cab. dont want

 

[InVOLuntary]

UK almost beat UGA. Games like that happen.

NCState could say the same thing.

 

[jave36]

Michigan would beat NCST by 4 TDs. NCST is horrible.

They couldn't even beat butch by 4 td

 

[tnhunter 10]

At the 20 min mark, Teddy Lehman from OU comes on. Good insight.

 

[Big Orange#1]

 

[Brillovol]

Those three were dudes though. It's a tough comparison, catches were caught, records were made, people were drafted, careers were had.

So then what do you judge this by?

College-pro careers? Overall impact to program? Leadership?

Obviously what Jayson has done afterward, and what Robert did here, then in NFL is lofty.

I think stuff is proven on field. And at end of season we can make fairer comparisons.

You gotta balance college versus pro in my opinion. Some ball out here but flame out in the NFL. Others like Eric Parker barely did much here and has a decent little pro career.

My reasoning is that we’ve got guys like Matthews as backups. This receiving corps is good and deep. Best in a long time no matter how you slice it.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Sampson bout to make Stutsman look stupid in the open field. Terry will be huffing for air after the third series, he’s a quitter and we know that. He will give out, they won’t be able to run the ball. Pili or Carter will knock the piss out of Arnold and he will be hesitant. If the try to let a pass develop we will get home. Look for Brazzell to go off this game, Nico will get passing windows due to OU being confident in the defense. And he’s shown he doesn’t need much of a window, boat race incoming.

Heup said something on his post-game that stuck in my mind...he said Matthews being back allows then to run their 4 wide now.

I think they have some really good stuff we haven't really seen yet about to happen...Matthews on a safety or a LB is scary.

I wonder if Okie has the balls to do anything different than all the other teams we have seen...just drop everybody and HOPE their front 4-5 can stop or slow our running game.

Venables is a great DC...make no mistake..he has thrown some diabolical schemes at some offenses before and had success....and Nico is in his first season starting.

 

[UTSuave’]

told yall it would be a highlight

 

[vol4eva]

Nico has to be more careful on those hitch throws. He’s had a couple where a Bama or Georgia DB probably picks six those. I think he’s trusting his arm strength a little too much there.

 

[MarcoVol]

Nico has to be more careful on those hitch throws. He’s had a couple where a Bama or Georgia DB probably picks six those. I think he’s trusting his arm strength a little too much there.

This has been said every year about every QB in this system and they continue to throw very few interceptions

 

[vol4eva]

This has been said every year about every QB in this system and they continue to throw very few interceptions

I’m nitpicking, Nico can’t be much better through 4 career starts as a redshirt freshman.

 

[jakez4ut]

A Tide Fan's thoughts on the Vols

rat poison.

Aaron Murry, David Pollack, Greg Mcelroy, whoever this bama fan is......all enemies.

whatever they're saying, good as it may be....Rat. Poison.

 

[Glitch]

He's not let me down yet,

 

[Glitch]

At some point this week, water will be wet.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I’ll admit I’m still pissed off about today’s game.
I can’t get over the fact that it was the EXACT same thing he did last week.

No excuse for that. His decision making is atrocious.

I’ve been trying to come up with a comparison of another QB that actually looked this bad and turned it around.

I came up with Terry Bradshaw. He was terrible his first few years and was actually benched in 1974 and finally got his job back in week 4 or 5. Four Super Bowls later, we know the story.

Bradshaw learned to play the position without trying to be a super hero. He let his playmakers make plays, relied on his run game and defense.

Problem is, in today’s NFL, you can’t give a guy 4/5 years to learn that. Money is too big. Second contacts and extensions make that virtually impossible.

Tired of rambling……tired of being pissed. On to next week and hope the Titans can beat the Packers, UT beats OU…….and for all that is holy, can my Govs beat Alabama A&M for our first f’ing win of ‘24…..

This isn't a "we told you so..." post, but a "can we find some common ground now?" post. You see why some of us Titan fans threw our hands up (and the towel in) when the Titans drafted him?

We were so disgusted with how close they came, just to have Tanny's QB play be the problem. If they could just get an above average QB, the pieces were there! And they got this knucklehead.

If anyone paid any attention at all to UK, they knew this is who he is. All the physical tools in the world with a wasp nest in his head that will get you beat in heartbreaking and head scratching fashion every week in the NFL. In college, there is enough lack of parity that the rest of the team can often overcome the knuckles in his head. But not so in the NFL. All other teams have to do is tread water until he gives them the game. Period.

And you can lift weight to get stronger. You can work on technique to throw the ball farther or run faster. But I'm not sure there's much you can do for that wasp nest and his terrible, terrible football instincts.