Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[DD4ME]

If they go with a heavier box this is going to be the Mike Matthews coming out party

I think the slot guys go ham personally. Would envision Squirrel 1st.

 

[DD4ME]

The thing about UT’s offense isn’t that the WRs are track-speed faster. They may be, but it’s not the point. As soon as somebody takes a slow step to think and process, he’s cooked and he’s so far out in space that help is not nearby. Defending this offense requires instant and insane commitment to doing your job.

If OK goes heavy in the box, it’s trying to make Nico beat them with his arm. I think he passes that test pretty comfortably. If OK goes light in the box—3 down and 2 LB, say—it will be daring UT to run and win blocks. I still think UT wins that matchup, but it might be closer. If I were OK, I’d be trying to force run reads and then get Nico to pull the ball and run. Is he willing to keep running on the road and take take hits? Or will UT’s coaches start pre-determining reads? I’ve seen Nico pass in the face of what look to me like run reads, and that means that he’s not really deciding or sometimes forcing passes.

Welcome to the hub AB. Insights always appreciated.

 

[mrmax86]

"Several coaches in the SEC I talked to about this today disagreed with me on this, but I don't think it's a blowout. Tennessee to win, OU to cover." - Josh Pate


So you're telling me multiple coaches around the SEC think Tennessee is going to blow out OU in Norman?

That’s the way I heard it.

 

[mrmax86]

What color tie was he wearing when he gave this interview?

FIFY

 

[jakez4ut]

The only comment i would add is it sounds like they typically like to stack the box. Their base tends to have 6+ near the LOS. 12 personell only plays to their strengths. I think the tight ends take a back seat. If we have them in for protection that probably means Venebles got his way schematically. We need Nico and passing to shine this week. WR need to make wise choices on their choice routes and Nico needs to make the pass.

it's a good point here. though i do think we've shown to be creative enough with TE's they could still be involved. but i do agree about the 12 personnel, situationally, i'm sure we'll see it.

if they do put 6+ in the box, we'll have opportunities down the field. and that could turn in to us getting up on them relatively quickly, and take them out of their game plan. should be a good chess match between these two coaches. if i wasn't a biased observer, i'm sure i'd be entertained. lol.

but i am, and i'd rather just throttle them and be done with it.

 

[mrmax86]

@85SugarVol you only have to hit the button once.

 

[knoxvol52]

So I guess the blonde still has Urban worn down.

 

[85SugarVol]

@85SugarVol you only have to hit the button once.

Idk. You sure?

 

[DD4ME]

Honestly I have overthought this way too much. Here are my 3 deciding factors for the game. I put them in my order of priority.

1. Can Arnold escape our pressure. He is their entire offense. He is their rushing leader, and they have no other true explosives. We will get pressure, but he has good wheels. This is what the film study should focus on. I don't think OK's oline is much better than NC states.

2. Can our oline hold up to what i believe will be their primary focus. Pressure. Their d line is their best unit, and they have one of the best linebackers in the country. This is not debtable. I would bring the heat and make Nico react in what may be the most hostile environment we play in.


3. Do our skill players play poorly under pressure as they did way too often last year? Nico throws a prettier ball and more guys are healthy, but a fumble here and a drop there could put this one in jeopardy.



We have more ways to win. We have more athletes on the bus. They need our help to lose.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I’m watching the replay of the A&M gator game.
In the 4th quarter, gators started to move the ball and scored a touchdown against the A&M backups.

I seriously want CJH to keep the starters in until the clock hits zero.
I want them to hang 50 in the first half and then another 50 in the second.
I want it to be the all time high score shutout game in Tennessee football history.

Who’s with me?

 

[volbeast33]

Grumors!!!!!!

 

[knoxvol52]

Honestly I have overthought this way too much. Here are my 3 deciding factors for the game. I out them in my order of priority.

1. Can Arnold escape our pressure. He is their entire offense. He is their rushing leader, and they have no other true explosives. We will get pressure, but he has good wheels. This is what the film study should focus on. I don't think OK's oline is much better than NC states.

2. Can our oline hold up to what i believe will be their primary focus. Pressure. Their d line is their best unit, and they have one of the best linebackers in the country. This is not debtable. I would bring the heat and make Nico react in what may be the most hostile environment we play in.


3. Do our skill players play poorly under pressure as they did way too often last year? Nico throws a prettier ball and more guys are healthy, but a fumble here and a drop there could out this one in jeopardy.



We have more ways to win. We have more athletes on the bus. They need our help to lose.

Just like every huge game in conference. The turnover differential will be a big factor in the outcome of the game.

Need to win Field position battle as well.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I want to see Squirrel take a couple to the house. It's been there, but so far he's fallen down making the catch most every time. If he can keep those wheels turning after the catch this Saturday I believe there will be a opportunities for him to burn those DBs inside and out.

And Thornton in the Chatt game kinda just ran out of bounds on that one deep shot when we know he's faster than those guys. Maybe wasn't quite 100%.

If OK loads the box like they like to do then it'll be there.

 

[DD4ME]

I’m watching the replay of the A&M gator game.
In the 4th quarter, gators started to move the ball and scored a touchdown against the A&M backups.

I seriously want CJH to keep the starters in until the clock hits zero.
I want them to hang 50 in the first half and then another 50 in the second.
I want it to be the all time high score shutout game in Tennessee football history.

Who’s with me?

You been hyping me up since preseason.

 

[jakez4ut]

Read my mind, jake. Why I don’t think we hang 40 like everybody here expects is I don’t see a WR outside of Squirrel on the boundary on go routes that can just get separation. And Nico has been flirting with a pick on a comeback route. Heupel can scheme up someone open consistently but I do wonder if Nico has enough experience to process it.

i have some confidence in the WR group, but they haven't "had to" do much so far this year. this weekend, i think they will have to, they'll have to compete to get the ball, and i'd imagine the windows may be a little tighter. we all know last year the big thing missing from the passing game was the middle of the field. we've shown to be better at it this year, but i do wonder how we do against a defense that can match up better.

i keep going back to the Bama game 2 years ago. the stacks on the boundaries worked so well, especially when we were able to get the defense caught with tempo. make no mistake, Venebles has his work cut out for him too....i expect us to move fast, early and often. and i expect OU to do whatever they can, defensively, on early downs to keep us from using tempo in favorable down and distance.

i'm excited, and so nervous, for this game. good news...i know we can win this game. and CJH has had his teams ready for games like this so far.

 

[DD4ME]

Just like every huge game in conference. The turnover differential will be a big factor in the outcome of the game.

Need to win Field position battle as well.

Yeah they need short yardage against this D. Oddly though short fields are when this secondary shines.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Bill O’Brien is a name my Florida buddies are hearing.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The thing about UT’s offense isn’t that the WRs are track-speed faster. They may be, but it’s not the point. As soon as somebody takes a slow step to think and process, he’s cooked and he’s so far out in space that help is not nearby. Defending this offense requires instant and insane commitment to doing your job.

If OK goes heavy in the box, it’s trying to make Nico beat them with his arm. I think he passes that test pretty comfortably. If OK goes light in the box—3 down and 2 LB, say—it will be daring UT to run and win blocks. I still think UT wins that matchup, but it might be closer. If I were OK, I’d be trying to force run reads and then get Nico to pull the ball and run. Is he willing to keep running on the road and take take hits? Or will UT’s coaches start pre-determining reads? I’ve seen Nico pass in the face of what look to me like run reads, and that means that he’s not really deciding or sometimes forcing passes.

That's 100% him being frustrated, so he is wanting to cut loose and he is just throwing it anyway...we've played 3 games and they all sat back 80-90% of the time.

I could tell he was really aggravated at Kent St in the 2nd quarter especially, because they were dropping everybody even though we were running all over them and he was obviously wanting to throw it down the field.

 

[therickbol]

@85SugarVol you only have to hit the button once.

Some women say differently

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Which AJ are you talking about?

Cause AJ Johnson I'm referencing had his last year in 2014 cut short by false allegations and is 2nd all time in tackles at UT for a career.

4 years, 46 games, 424 total tackles, 32 TFLs, 3 sacks, 5 INTs, 3 FFs & FRs

I'm not gonna do it...I've got good reasons, and if you want to know them, then go watch any of those games you can find and see why.

I will say it this way..and I'm not going to argue about it because I do not want to disparage a VFL for doing the best he could early when he probably wasn't really ready for SEC ball, plus I do think he became the beast we all wanted him to ne later in his career, and I hate what happened to him...

So here it is...He made a lot of tackles his first two years...as he got older more physically ready he was making a lot of great hard hitting tackles in the hole..and not 7-10 yards down field.

 

[Glitch]

I heard Gruden only buys meth from Gainesville, Florida

 

[screenthis]

Oh my word. So sorry to hear you had another amputation. Prayers you are on the mend.

One amputation. Missing a toe now. Could have been much worse. Good news? I'll be easily identifiable if I go missing.

 

[Glitch]

@85SugarVol you only have to hit the button once.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I'm not gonna do it...I've got good reasons, and if you want to know them, then go watch any of those games you can find and see why.

I will say it this way..and I'm not going to argue about it because I do not want to disparage a VFL for doing the best he could early when he probably wasn't really ready for SEC ball, plus I do think he became the beast we all wanted him to ne later in his career, and I hate what happened to him...

So here it is...He made a lot of tackles his first two years...as he got older more physically ready he was making a lot of great hard hitting tackles in the hole..and not 7-10 yards down field.

I felt like most of his issues were coaching related. He seemed to be playing on all instinct while here, at least under Butch he developed physically.

But 80 tackles as a true freshman, 138 as a sophomore, 105 and then 101 (missing 3 games) is pretty impressive consistency for a guy that had next to no coaching while here.

I would have loved to see him in the defense we play now though, would be an even better version of what Pili is I think.

 

[Jackcrevol]

That would be Culiacan, slightly south, down the penisinsula. to the left