Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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OGbabyaviVol said:
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I guess this means the large bets are coming in on OK? Line still hovering around -7.
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Yes. Usually not a good sign.

I don't think it matters on this game as far as the Vols win goes. I think a lot of people believe OU will have a big advantage at home and cover the spread. I'd like to see the MoneyLine bets.
 
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jave36 said:
I seriously doubt slacking is the issue. The good ole boy system is the problem. The criteria for being an official doesn't have much to do with how good you are. There are some really really amazing high school and D2 officials who are much better at officiating than a lot of P4 officials who are flat out told "don't bother applying" because they're too tall or they don't have any connections or they're older than 50 years old etc...

It's your appearance and who you know. It's not a meritocracy. They bring in the good ole boys and/or people who fit the physical appearance they're looking for, and as long as they're not so bad that the national media goes after them, they don't care how good they are at officiating.

You see crews who make disastrous decisions trot right back out the next week unless it's so bad that ESPN anchors are calling them out.

So making it a full time job wouldn't help, in my opinion. The problem is at the top and the lack of concern that conference leaders have in making sure the officiating is as good as possible. If they had try outs and hired based solely on merit (they don't), things would be much better.
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I don’t mean simply make the current refs “full time” and it’ll solve the issue. You make a lot of points, about the good ol boy system and you’re correct. This needs to be redone from the ground up. It’s not a simple “make it full time” and it’s fixed. To be blunt the current heads of officiating need to be axed and we need a fresh start with new mandatory accountability clauses in their contracts. It’s not as simple as “everyone slacks”. I agree. A lot of it is “who you know”, ego, not clear direction (like every conference calling certain penalties differently) etc. that’s a lot of glaring issues.
 
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Wickman said:
OU started as a 3.5 point favorite. Taking both UT when OU was -3 and taking OU when Vols are -7.5 could be big earning if it hits in the middle.
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What? I thought Tennessee started at as an 8 point favorite? I don't think OU was ever favored.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Japan is somewhere I’d like to move when this all falls apart. Still very nationalistic and traditional. Their main problem is not having kids, but that’s the case for the entire developed world.
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Yup it'll be a very interesting culture down the road. They may also be one of the first to "fall apart" with a sky high national debt ratio, low consumer spending levels, and an aging population with no one to support them (while rejecting immigration to offset).

They've embraced robotics like few. With their absurd population imbalance, they will be the world's guinea pig for robots being a big part of daily life. They'll be everywhere, out of necessity.
 
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UTK said:
I don’t mean simply make the current refs “full time” and it’ll solve the issue. You make a lot of points, about the good ol boy system and you’re correct. This needs to be redone from the ground up. It’s not a simple “make it full time” and it’s fixed. To be blunt the current heads of officiating need to be axed and we need a fresh start with new mandatory accountability clauses in their contracts. It’s not as simple as “everyone slacks”. I agree. A lot of it is “who you know”, ego, not clear direction (like every conference calling certain penalties differently) etc. that’s a lot of glaring issues.
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Agreed. I'd love to see one single, independent organization handle all the officiating, no reason to have conferences handle their own officials. Sets up a clear conflict of interest.

And if that organization's only job was officiating, they'd have to be good at it.
 
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Devo182 said:
Would he have not been Jewish? Not exactly in their religion to procreate with non-Jews, of any kind.
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The concept of the Hebrew/Jewish people did not come into being until well after Noah. All peoples of the world would be ancestors of Noah since he and his family were the only ones to survive the flood.
 
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