Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Adam Sandler]

I truly hope not but I think we botched his development. He was a stud WR and we moved him to RB out of need. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.

Not enough film to make that case imo

 

[Orange_Crush]

I like Josh Pate usually but this is ridiculous. Just last week he had Clemson 5th in his power ratings. He was waxing poetically about how they were coming on for a potential playoff run. He also all but guaranteed they would beat Louisville based on them coming off a bye and Louisville playing 7 straight games. And now he says they're essentially done as an elite program. Seriously?

I don't disagree with his ultimate conclusion but why hype them up for weeks now. I found it hilarious the media was crowning Clemson they last month or so because they've been beating up on bad teams. They only teams above. 500 they've faced this year are Georgia and Louisville and both teams dog walked them. Josh Pate should have never bought into them.

You don't understand someone hyping something and then being wrong?

Ahem...



At least Pate changes his tune when reality doesn't go the way of his predictions.

 

[knoxvol52]

Sort of does damage to the "head to head matters, Bama will never get in ahead of us with a win over them" narrative.

HTH is just one of the criteria's in the CFP rankings not just the main one as some obviously assume.

 

[rikberry31]

Making a statement of potential dynamism versus current, lack thereof. You can condescend about purported or perceived football knowledge deficiencies, but my statement stands.

See my post on USF offense. Run properly it is very effective.

Let it stand here, I have watched a lot of Tennessee football in my time and this is the best team we have ever had, in spite of the perceived results so far.

 

[Adam Sandler]

All this playoff scenario talk is a waste of time right now. I only care about what we'll see from the team against Mississippi State. Hopefully they get Thornton more involved in the passing game early...maybe even get Sampson a few catches...and put a TD on the board early in the first quarter. Nico is rounding into form and him having another good game before playing UGA is important for his confidence before going on the road against a team that's probably going to go all out to pressure him. Mississippi State also has a better offense than Kentucky, so they won't be a complete pushover for our defense.

We need to see a complete game in all phases with a convincing win that continues to build momentum and confidence for this team before heading to Athens. Beat UGA and the playoff stuff handles itself.

To me this game tells as much as any of the past 5. This needs to be an “everything worked” game and not a “we’re so close” game, against the worst team/defense in the sec by a landslide.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Yes

Please don’t push this. Especially when it was a baseless suspicion/claim by LittleVol now turning rumor.

 

[VolGee4]

HTH is just one of the criteria's in the CFP rankings not just the main one as some obviously assume.

Sure, when everything else is pretty equal, why would we care about who won head to head?

 

[you]

Sadly, I’m not sure we’re gonna get a home playoff game in Neyland. Win out and we’re a top 4 seed. Lose a game and we’d be more likely in the 9-12 range instead of 5-8

This is not being talked about enough. A HOME PLAYOFF GAME IN NEYLAND.

What if we win out the regular season and lose the SEC championship. Then I think we’d be in the 5-8 seed.

What would you rather have: a SEC Champion and 1st round bye; or, SEC runner up , and a first round Home game.

It’s kinda weird to say, but I’d like that Home Playoff game. Would be the most electric crowd ever.

 

[rikberry31]

Bru said once that he feels like it improves our passing game to run plays early where we can "soften up" the corners and let them be the ones taking the hits. I think "soften up" was his phrase; if not, some similar euphemism.

I believe that Bru is not 100% and he was still laying the wood out there Saturday. He was probably off camera on a lot of his blocks but he was looking to jack some fools up.

 

[volinbama256]

anyone else notice or has it been discussed, bama was on a bye week and move up several spots to #11?!

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Let it stand here, I have watched a lot of Tennessee football in my time and this is the best team we have ever had, in spite of the perceived results so far.

Yeah, I don't think this offense would have any trouble at all scoring on an Al Wilson & Deon Grant defense. . . i'm not sure a Tee Martin & Peerless Price could do much, really. That would actually be fun to watch. '98 Offense vs this year's Defense.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Let it stand here, I have watched a lot of Tennessee football in my time and this is the best team we have ever had, in spite of the perceived results so far.

recency bias.

 

[volinbama256]

I believe that Bru is not 100% and he was still laying the wood out there Saturday. He was probably off camera on a lot of his blocks but he was looking to jack some fools up.

I know the refs screwed us majorly on his deep ball where even the announcers commented how the defender had a hold of his arm the entire time so he could only try and catch it with one hand, two refs watching, yet no call. You can't make this up.
We did that and they'd call holding, illegal formation, illegal touching, personal foul, and false start all for the one play.

 

[rikberry31]

This is what is stealing sleep from me. Why have the Vols moved from a fast paced hurry up offense to one where the entire offensive team stares at the sideline 'til the play clock is at 15 seconds or so and then gets set for the play?

The hurry up is the getting to the line of scrimmage to keep the other team from substituting. We go fast or slow it down depending on the situation. We have hurried up and ran a lot of clock this year.

 

[volinbama256]

If he was smart, he’d stick around. Look at how many guys in this offense make a huge jump in year 3 (Wright, Sampson). Heck, even Jabari Small had 13 TD’s as a junior.

I hope he looks at Sampson and how he patiently waited his turn and sticks around.

why would he transfer if he's truly been hurt on and off this season? I too hope he stays...

 

[Adam Sandler]

anyone else notice or has it been discussed, bama was on a bye week and move up several spots to #11?!

Bama bias. I’m sure Saban had something to do with it.

 

[volinbama256]

Bama bias. I’m sure Saban had something to do with it.

we beat FL and dropped LOL

 

[rikberry31]

I’ve been massacred on here for saying we need a new WR coach…..

As you should have been.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Looks like @InVOLuntary let @Weezer drive the speed boat

 

[CABVOL]

Happy Monday

November 4, 2024: Do not underestimate your ability to come out of this funk. Stay focused on the positive aspects of where you are and what you are doing, and be done with condemnation. The Lord has not condemned you, but instead brought you to a higher place spiritually through the things you have suffered. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit

Needed this BADLY. Thank you, brother.

 

[vol4eva]

Mikes got to leapfrog Nimrod. Nimrods a MAC level player.

 

[rikberry31]

I never want to see a field goal attempt though. Never. Seen all I need to see on that front. Unless they give him an exorcism.

Don't worry, he's a freshman and he had a bad day. The first was pretty long and then it got in his head.

 

[BarrythesnoUT]

Ideally those teams all eat each other alive.

The only thing I’m confident in is:
LSU needs to beat Bama
Uga needs to beat Ole Miss
Texas needs to beat TAMU

If that could happen and LSU could lose again also, that would all but gaurantee us a playoff birth as one of only 3 sec teams with 2 or less losses, assuming we take care of business aside from a loss in Athens.

Just win baby!

 

[rikberry31]

I know this has already been said a lot, but we really need to play Mike Matthews more next week. I don’t care how. Find a way. Too many drops occurring, and I also don’t even want him to entertain the idea of transferring because we sat him on the bench all year while other guys can’t catch,

Last year's Nico says hi. If he was ready and could have a significant impact he would be out there.

 

[UTSuave’]

anyone else notice or has it been discussed, bama was on a bye week and move up several spots to #11?!

TV Ratings…keep Alabama close enough in the rankings so that they have to be considered and get the nod because of who they are and the money they generate…this isn’t about what’s right and wrong here.