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GoodTimeVol said:
The fact you can’t see that both argument’s are “strawman” is your problem. They are opinions based on predictions lol
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That's ridiculous. Agreeing that we may get in, and we may not get in is not equal to making absolute claims. Also, it sounds like your argument (definition of 'fallacy') simply morphs and evolves as seems convenient for you.

(I'd ask you to show where anyone has misrepresented your argument, by the way, which is what 'strawman' means. Also, 'strawman' != 'discussing probabilities vs sureties/guarantees'. I'm not sure what definition of 'strawman' you're using here.))

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It’s not an attack more of an attack on playing the “what if game” is kinda a fallacy, every team in the SEC vying for a playoff spot has to win out not just us…
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So, at one point, you claimed the argument is a fallacy for discussing potentials. Now, you're claiming the fallacy is because folks are discussing (supposed) absolutes.

The fact that your definition of "fallacy" is fluid enough to be whatever you need it to be is, in fact, fallacious argumentation (i.e. a ham-handed version of equivocation).

As a matter of fact, screaming "fallacy" out of convenience is basically the definition of the "Fallacy Fallacy" (i.e. misrepresenting an opposing argument as 'fallacious' without showing how/why it's fallacious).
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
Wah happennn?
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Pitt got a stop on 4th down, and the refs repeated the down because they supposedly weren't ready, even though both line judges ran in and spotted the ball after the play.

And then a phantom holding penalty on the two point conversion to tie the game. That was neither holding nor anywhere near the play.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I don't think it will have any positive effect for UGA. They'll likely be playing stressed out and will try to force stuff.

They were always going to be super pumped for this game. Only difference now is their anxiety is through the roof. My bet is that it forces them to make more of the mistakes they already make.

If we just play like we're capable of, UGA will hang themselves under the pressure.

Also. . . we may need you to drink a double shot of the good stuff, just for good measure. . .

We're also gonna need a VN copperhead to post at some point this week. We're still undefeated when that happens and it's documented. 😂
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Yeah. I don't know if I'm a fan of this reputation I have acquired 🤣.

I think we are in a much better position to win with our defense than we were in 2022. I was lucky enough to be on the field for 2022 though, and let me tell you it was an insufferable nightmare how consistently loud that place was. I couldn't communicate with people on the sideline next to me.

Two big things though: Coop was limping on the sideline all game in 22. Pretty sure him playing hurt affected how good of a pass rush they got. The second is that defense travels. We can win. Great chance of it. Can't have drive killing penalties on offense. Get it cleaned up. It's time for us to effing take back this conference as rightfully ours this Saturday.
 
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orangejuice said:
The left arm would be in a sling if it was hurt. Everyone should stop trying to diagnose from that video. You really think they would just let it hang and tell him try not to move it if it was hurt?
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I heard his arm fell off and that’s a prosthetic just to confuse the media. Like a Lego arm.
 
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Vols4us said:
Win one game at a time.

If you have watched UGA at all, you know they are beatable. We match up very well. Pressure Beck, stop the run, hold them to less than 20 points - just like our D had done all season. UGA's O line is very average.

Even Moore can win against them if he plays within himself and finds the open receivers underneath. Our heavy run personnel packages are awesome. However, I expect Nico to be back.
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I do wish we hadn't had this loong streak of home games.

Haven't been outside the friendly confines of Neyland since Arky and now it'll either be Nico off of injury...or Moore.

Hope we get a lot of prep work in this week with both. Need defense lights out, you just know we'll get the UGA that played Texas.
 
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orangejuice said:
The left arm would be in a sling if it was hurt. Everyone should stop trying to diagnose from that video. You really think they would just let it hang and tell him try not to move it if it was hurt?
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You mean the seizure, brain bleeds, and possibility of him being pregnant are just speculations?
 
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VolGee4 said:
I never was once condescending. I guess you can lump everyone in one box though.
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I wrote the post you responded to very intentionally. I never said that you were condescending. I used a passive voice for a reason. If that's not you, then you probably shouldn't own it.

The stream of thought was that I responded to someone who HAS been condescending and sarcastic, while misrepresenting my argument. I replied to you to explain the nuances of my argument, while pointing out that SOME have acting in such a way that wasn't called for if they'd just get out of ego-debate.

Hell, I replied to the offender to point out that they'd just made the exact point they'd made themselves an ass over.

If you haven't been a condescending ass, then I wasn't talking about you. I was just talking TO you.

(ETA: I just reread the exchange. Let's not gloss over the fact that your response to me was a at best a misrepresentation of my argument, so... Yah. Whatever.)

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Orange_Crush said:
That's ridiculous. Agreeing that we may get in, and we may not get in is not equal to making absolute claims. Also, it sounds like your argument (definition of 'fallacy') simply morphs and evolves as seems convenient for you.

(I'd ask you to show where anyone has misrepresented your argument, by the way, which is what 'strawman' means. Also, 'strawman' != 'discussing probabilities vs sureties/guarantees'. I'm not sure what definition of 'strawman' you're using here.))



So, at one point, you claimed the argument is a fallacy for discussing potentials. Now, you're claiming the fallacy is because folks are discussing (supposed) absolutes.

The fact that your definition of "fallacy" is fluid enough to be whatever you need it to be is, in fact, fallacious argumentation (i.e. a ham-handed version of equivocation).

As a matter of fact, screaming "fallacy" out of convenience is basically the definition of the "Fallacy Fallacy" (i.e. misrepresenting an opposing argument as 'fallacious' without showing how/why it's fallacious).
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We’re not arguing over facts, we are arguing over prediction based opinions. Getting mad because I called out the fallacy isn’t helping your argument it’s making you look like a child because someone disagrees with your opinion. Seems like you are mad at the word “fallacy” more than anything else lol
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I wrote the post you responded to very intentionally. I never said that you were condescending. I used a passive voice for a reason. If that's not you, then you probably shouldn't own it.

The stream of thought was that I responded to someone who HAS been condescending and sarcastic, while misrepresenting my argument. I replied to you to explain the nuances of my argument, while pointing out that SOME have acting in such a way that wasn't called for if they'd just get out of ego-debate.

Hell, I replied to the offender to point out that they'd just made the exact point they'd made themselves an ass over.

If you haven't been a condescending ass, then I wasn't talking about you. I was just talking TO you.

(ETA: I just reread the exchange. Let's not gloss over the fact that your response to me was a at best a misrepresentation of my argument, so... Yah. Whatever.)

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lol…I’ve been on here a long time. This board has kind of gotten crazy. Some people don’t discuss well or make assumptions. I made one response, and it was simply a request for you to analyze the other schools like us (which does affect our position). Yet somehow it was a misrepresentation? Holy moly.
 
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